I'll offer an alternative theory. Suppose Epstein is significant only because of his minor role in scandal politics. If there had been no big name people in pics with him or on his plane, is it possible he'd be just another slick and successful con man, riding one scam to another not unlike the current US president*? He wheels, he deals, and he throws parties with women and some underage girls, probably tamer than Diddy's events, and maybe not unlike Gaetz's dalliances. He builds his own aura - big money, big deals, flashy women, parties. Some people take their clients to play golf. Epstein took his to his island.
And the threshold for "trafficking" is really quite low. And the term "child molesting" and "abuse" are applied to 17 year-olds as well as a 14 year old. So maybe it's possible that nobody else has been arrested because he really wasn't running a big mob. He was rounding up young women/girls to party with, not to sell off into some slave trade. A self-styled Hugh Hefner, maybe. Maybe he had cameras for his own "protection" but never tried to blackmail anybody.
I'm not saying he's a nice guy, nor that he's innocent of some sleazy and illegal stuff. I'm just suggesting that he's just a garden variety con guy with wealthy and some famous clients. But if none of those clients had been Prince Andrew, for example, would anybody have ever heard of Epstein?
Isn't it possible the whole myth of Jeffrey Epstein was created by Republicans who thought they could use him to trash Democrats?
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... Isn't it possible the whole myth of Jeffrey Epstein was created by Republicans who thought they could use him to trash Democrats?
They sure played up that angle for a long time. Epstein's second FBI arrest was in 2019 - Dolt .45 Admin* - and Hillary was still a threat to run in 2020. Trashing Bill would have had value.
Otoh, famous or not it seems very possible that Epstein guests had sex with minors. If not, what was Maxwell's purpose and why is she in prison? Is the FBI saying only she knows who they were and that there is no evidence anywhere - papers, computer files, video - IDing them and thus no basis for charges? Hmmm.
Idk that DonOLD is culpable, but could billionaire friends of his or big GQP donors be vulnerable? That would also explain a coverup.
I don't know why I find this so entertaining. It's such a waste of time. Nevertheless, reading the CPF twist themselves into knots so as to not admit they were lied to about a very core part of the lore underpinning their cult does not get old.
Billy's bayonet wrote:Here is my shanty Irish opinion of the who Epstein debacle, forgive me if I ramble on.
I believe Epstein was murdered in his cell to shut him up. Some of you have no idea how corrupt prison guards, officials and command staff are. I even had a close friend who was a former prison guard on Rikers Island tell me in detail. They did a good job of getting rid of Epstein and covering their tracks. So then you had a corrupt FBI "investigate" and no doubt confirm prison officials "Investigation". The old rubber stamp. How much dirt was swept away by 4 years of the run amok DOJ/Biden admin.
What you have a case where evidence was destroyed tampered with, altered whatever, and the various officials and agencies had YEARS to do it.
Enter Kash Patel/Bongino both of whom I have respect for and I am sure they put 100% effort into getting at the truth, however things were so Fkd up covered up lack of evidence all they could do is conclude "we can't prove it", so we have NO CHOICE but to support the official findings (As much as we hate it).
I know that feeling, my tenure in DC homicide taught me that. You know WHO killed who, but you can't PROVE IT. But feelings and your gut hunch DO NOT stand up in court, that is the bitter lesson of OUR laws. There were hundreds of unsolved homicides during my career.
Lets face it, People got away with murder, happens a lot.
Now as far as the client list, I think most of the "Clients" names have already been released. Why no new releases?
Ask yourself this Question, if there is a client list it has been redacted, destroyed or altered by the previous administration over the last 4 years if this was in the hands of corrupt officials what do you think would have happened to it?
Last thought. What does a "client list" prove? Nothing, somebody went to an Island known for sex with young girls and boys. Does it prove anybody had sex with an underage child? No it doesn't. All it proves is you went to a private Island. All one can do is point the finger and raise the implied innuendo at such and Oh the scandal. Yeah 30 years ago it would have destroyed careers, nowadays YAWNNNNN. Personally I could give a shit less about who is on the client list. There are other more pressing matters.
Ok Rant over.
They used a body double, it wasn't actually Epstein:
Solar wrote:Good rant.
However, I don't think Epstein ever made it to jail, based on photo evidence provided by the Justice dept. These are not the same people; one was a double.
I still believe he and McStain are sitting on some tropical beach sipping margaritas.
Blame Biden again:
Possum wrote:One item that is easy to forget, all evidence of what happened with Epstein, the list, the names, the video, everything, was in the possession of the Biden administration. When they say there is no list, they are probably telling the truth. They did not say there never was one.
So Possum thinks that if there had been a list and Biden's people destroyed it that Trump, et. al. wouldn't be shouting that to the rooftops? Even if it weren't true, it's a good thing for them to say. The whole lot of them are idiots.
There is no limit on their collective abilities to twist any subject into knots to fit their narrative.
Trump's mind could be completely melted from dementia leaving him in a semi-vegetative state, and maga would still be interpreting his random twitches and analyzing the way his globs of slobber fall to the ground as geopolitical genius, like an oracle interprets the entrails of a sacrificed sheep.