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Note where the crime is: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/i ... 068b1d2d18

Compare to where the "government assets" are
Compare to where the soldiers are

National Mall, where many of the soldiers are ummm "patrolling" doesn't even have enough crime to get a color on the map.

Intimidation and a blatant attempt to normalize military control of civilians.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 12:20 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 12:10 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 12:00 pm
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Fri Aug 22, 2025 10:47 am

If one digs into the issue they will find the military is there to protect government assets intimidate and just present a presence. They are not there for law enforcement.
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Puh-leez. You cannot possibly believe that "government assets" are at such risk from the "marauding gangs and blood-thirsty killers" that national guard soldiers are required for regular patrol. If you want to support authoritarianism and unlawful suppression of immigrants okfine. Just be honest about it.
" If you want to support authoritarianism and unlawful suppression of immigrants okfine."

This is nothing about immigration. It is about crime in Washington. Ignore the situation if you choose. The action is well within the law, and BTW< it seems to be working.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 1:09 pm
Note where the crime is: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/i ... 068b1d2d18

Compare to where the "government assets" are
Compare to where the soldiers are

National Mall, where many of the soldiers are ummm "patrolling" doesn't even have enough crime to get a color on the map.

Intimidation and a blatant attempt to normalize military control of civilians.
I was hopping around between some bars late into the night in the areas marked in red on the map a few months ago when I was in DC. It didn't feel anymore unsafe than any city or town in the US that I've been to, and I've been to quite a few. There were plenty of other people out doing the same and having drinks and dinner and enjoying the nightlife.

I'm supposed to doubt my own, real life, experience and believe that I was in fact walking around an area more dangerous than Baghdad? The president is a liar and a coward

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Another example of where Trump creates a "problem" out of whole cloth and then puts on a big show to "solve" it while actually accomplishing nothing of value. If one doesn't believe the city's crime numbers, they can check the FBI's numbers. They also show decreasing, not increasing, crime in DC and an overall crime rate not even in the top ten cities. But I suppose when Trump sees that Memphis is actually at the top of the list, he'll send troops there right away. Sure, he will. Has nothing to do with crime and everything to do with show and intimidation.

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The only instance I can find of the national guard being deployed due to "crime" (not extraordinary circumstances like riots) was in 1954.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declara ... y,_Alabama

So yeah, it's definitely an unusual move. Especially for a city that's seen crime decline

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O Really wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 1:09 pm
Note where the crime is: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/mapviewer/i ... 068b1d2d18

Compare to where the "government assets" are
Compare to where the soldiers are

National Mall, where many of the soldiers are ummm "patrolling" doesn't even have enough crime to get a color on the map.
They must not count the lunch break crowd - congresspersons, WH and congressional staff.
Intimidation and a blatant attempt to normalize military control of civilians.
Bingo. Repugs used to detest Big Brother and government oppression. Damn, what a difference Cultish indoctrination and a majority non-White population to suppress make.
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I really like how supplicant stumbles over himself to justify it all. As if reality doesn't actually exist.

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It's almost as if he has a few examples of Trump not lying.

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LOL

DonOld bloviating about what a great success this has already been and the crime numbers are way down. Wtf?

What numbers?

The only verifiable numbers I've seen that are down are DC restaurant business because no one wants to navigate the Jackboots.

Even Fox says so.


DC restaurant dining plunges as Trump's crime crackdown continues, data shows



Guess he's ready to kill business in Chicago next.


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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:49 pm
LOL

DonOld bloviating about what a great success this has already been and the crime numbers are way down. Wtf?

What numbers?

The only verifiable numbers I've seen that are down are DC restaurant business because no one wants to navigate the Jackboots.

Even Fox says so.

DC restaurant dining plunges as Trump's crime crackdown continues, data shows

Guess he's ready to kill business in Chicago next.

https://x.com/votevets/status/1958974906214879613
Will you join the protests? I think it'll be awhile until he gets around to Hooterville, or even Charlotte.
This Republican Governor Has Declined To Send National Guard Troops To D.C.
It's a rare refusal as six Republican-led states have sent their National Guard to Washington in recent days.


Vermont’s Republican Gov. Phil Scott has declined to send the state’s National Guard to Washington, D.C., noting that he didn’t believe it to be a proper use of these troops.

“In the absence of an immediate emergency or disaster that local and regional first responders are unable to handle, the governor just does not support utilizing the guard for this purpose, and does not view the enforcement of domestic law as a proper use of the National Guard,” Scott’s chief of staff Jason Gibbs told Vermont Public on Friday.
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... Scott’s decision followed a Pentagon request for a “few dozen” of the state’s troops, according to Gibbs, and comes as six Republican-led states, including West Virginia, South Carolina, Ohio, Mississippi, Tennessee and Louisiana, have authorized the deployment of their National Guard to D.C. in the last week.
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All told, Trump has already deployed 800 National Guard troops to the city, and the states’ contributions could put that number upwards of 1,700.
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... This also isn’t the first time that Scott has pushed back on the Trump administration’s attempts to use the state’s National Guard. Previously, Scott rejected a Defense Department request to utilize Vermont’s National Guard to assist Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at detention facilities.
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Vrede too wrote:
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Will you join the protests? I think it'll be awhile until he gets around to Hooterville, or even Charlotte.

Have to wait and see who's sponsoring it etc.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Aug 22, 2025 5:49 pm
LOL

DonOld bloviating about what a great success this has already been and the crime numbers are way down. Wtf?

What numbers?

The only verifiable numbers I've seen that are down are DC restaurant business because no one wants to navigate the Jackboots.

Even Fox says so.


DC restaurant dining plunges as Trump's crime crackdown continues, data shows



Guess he's ready to kill business in Chicago next.


Hey look it's that big government tyranny thing conservatives claim they're against.

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Whack9 wrote:
Sat Aug 23, 2025 7:38 am
Hey look it's that big government tyranny thing conservatives claim they're against.

https://i.imgur.com/faBGhuK.jpeg
:lol: That's a great new flag for MAGA!
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Just in case you guys missed it. There has not been a murder in DC in like 9 days. Wonder how much the federal presence has had anything to with it? I guess many believe it is just a coincidence.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
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Just in case you guys missed it. There has not been a murder in DC in like 9 days. Wonder how much the federal presence has had anything to with it? I guess many believe it is just a coincidence.
Most murders are at least somewhat spontaneous, and most potential murderers don't expect to get caught - or in some cases don't care. But if you want to give the "federal presence" credit for collecting and getting hundreds of firearms off the street, find. Oh wait.

Anyway, I thought they weren't there for crime but to "protect federal assets." I guess there are usually a lot of murders in/around the federal assets, eh?

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If we repeal the second amendment and have the government confiscate all firearms, we could be even safer. Let's go further and have them ban the sale of fixed blade knives while we're at it. It'll cut down on stabbings.

I bet the media stirs up a lot of hate and division, so let's also get rid of the first amendment while we're at it. Better yet, let's force all citizens to keep recording devices in their homes at all times, allowing government commissars to listen in to ensure no one is planning to commit crimes. That'll nip a lot of crime in the bud.

/S obviously.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:37 am
Just in case you guys missed it. There has not been a murder in DC in like 9 days. Wonder how much the federal presence has had anything to with it? I guess many believe it is just a coincidence.
Lol.

But there have been shootings.

Does DonOld get credit for bad aim too?

BTW,
Shootings and murder have been trending down for a couple of years.

Thx DonOld. :lol: :roll:
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Aug 24, 2025 1:37 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Sun Aug 24, 2025 10:37 am
Just in case you guys missed it. There has not been a murder in DC in like 9 days. Wonder how much the federal presence has had anything to with it? I guess many believe it is just a coincidence.
Lol.

But there have been shootings.

Does DonOld get credit for bad aim too?

BTW,
Shootings and murder have been trending down for a couple of years.

Thx DonOld. :lol: :roll:
That is creative.

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It's not necessary to be a prosecutor or defence attorney to know the fundamentals about murders. Once you get past bad guys shooting each other (which drives up the numbers), most murder victims are killed by someone they know, most often family members, and in many cases in a fit of drunken rage. Past that, you get "accidents" where some fool waves around a gun that "goes off." Eventually you get to "break-in gone bad" or similar shootings in the act of something else. There is some argument that increased police presence can cut out some gang violence - at least move it, but that takes time - much over 9 days.

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