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O Really wrote:
Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:54 am
So a guy who sold off any ethics he ever had and much of his brain, who happily passes along ridiculous debunked stories about dog-eating Haitians, who bends himself into pretzels to defend trumpish stuff already proven untrue, who has done nothing in any elective office and likely won't get a chance to because of the power-grabbing narcissist he works for is leading all match-ups with almost half the voters' support? Christ on a bike, clearly Trump personally is not the problem with the country.
Don't forget:
His invasion of Greenland;
Breaking the College Football Playoff National Championship trophy on live television;
Threatening World Cup visitors;
Starting the India-Pakistan War;
His participation in the Signalgate chat;
Killing the Pope;
His attack on Zelenskyy, etc.
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But he's certainly benefited from it and this is where we are now. The LIV is America.
:oops: :lol: I was trying to figure out your golf metaphor.
As much as I may like the possibilities of Pete or AOC I simply can't be excited for them.

I've said it before, much like 2020 it's gonna have to be a "normal" white guy.
A Californian is "normal"? :P :P


Rahm Emanuel eviscerated for abandoning trans folks 'I'm so sick of Democrats like you selling out'
"MAGA is the most genital-obsessed political party I have ever seen," said I've Had It podcast host Jennifer Welch.


:headscratch: Throwing trans Americans under the bus may or may not be smart general election strategy, but I don't see it helping a Dem in the primaries.
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Refusing to be dragged into fringe issues isn't the same as bus-tossing. Republicans have become very good and tactics like one attributed to LBJ back when he was running for Congress. Supposedly he told his publicist to get out a rumour that his opponent had been caught having sex with a sheep. The publicist objected, saying that clearly was not true, but LBJ said "Yeah, I know - I just want to make the son of a bitch deny it."

Repugs demonized trans people, painting them as indistinguishable from pedophiles and sexual predators and then made Dems defend them. They shouldn't have taken the bait, shouldn't have let it get to be that big of an issue. But if history means anything, Dems will just keep falling into the same traps, actually trying to answer the lose-lose question "did you stop beating your wife?"

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:headscratch: Throwing trans Americans under the bus may or may not be smart general election strategy, but I don't see it helping a Dem in the primaries.
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Pritzker seems like a good one. Think they could get him slimmed down a bit, re-do his hair and suit so he looks a little less like a 20's gangster?

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Maybe a little more like this?
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Pritzker seems like a good one. Think they could get him slimmed down a bit,
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He's good, but he'd get Chris Christied.
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I'd sure watch a sumo match between Pritzker and Christie. It would be better than a Savannah Bananas baseball game.

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Yeah, he's running.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:51 pm
Yeah, he's running.

https://x.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/19 ... 9822213607
CBP jackboots "coincidentally" ran a major street sweeping operation near Gavin's press conference venue with dozens of agents.
Fascism is here. :ateeth:
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:58 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:51 pm
Yeah, he's running.

https://x.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/19 ... 9822213607
CBP jackboots "coincidentally" ran a major street sweeping operation near Gavin's press conference venue with dozens of agents.
Fascism is here. :ateeth:
Enforcing existing immigration laws is Facism?

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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:58 pm
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Thu Aug 14, 2025 7:51 pm
Yeah, he's running.

https://x.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/19 ... 9822213607
CBP jackboots "coincidentally" ran a major street sweeping operation near Gavin's press conference venue with dozens of agents.
Fascism is here. :ateeth:
Enforcing existing immigration laws is Facism?
Breaking one or more laws to enforce another has not historically been acceptable in the former country of the United States, and usually resulted in dropped charges or acquittals. Maybe the current regime isn't 100% facist, but is clearly authoritarian in ways not consistent with historical US democratic principles.

It's hard to believe you guys used to complain about Obama "overreach"

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It's hard to believe you guys used to complain about Obama "overreach"
You win the internet today. :lol:
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O Really wrote:
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Breaking one or more laws to enforce another has not historically been acceptable in the former country of the United States, and usually resulted in dropped charges or acquittals. Maybe the current regime isn't 100% facist, but is clearly authoritarian in ways not consistent with historical US democratic principles.

It's hard to believe you guys used to complain about Obama "overreach"
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Is SoupySales really too slow to understand that the raid where Gavin was speaking (quite well I might say) was about intimidating the Gov and his supporters rather than "Enforcing existing immigration laws", or does he just play an imbecile for our entertainment? There was NO reason for a CBP operation in that area, not a Home Depot or pot farm in sight. Those dozens of agents arrested one person, one. DOGE, where are you?

Armed massed Brown Shirts showing up at an opposition event IS fascism, duh.

If I've paid close enough attention SoupySales is around 75-80 years old, born in 1948 give or take 5 years. This means that one or more of his parents and other close relatives fought fascism, either on the battlefield, in the rear or in war industry. They would be ashamed of him.
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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Fri Aug 15, 2025 6:16 am
Enforcing existing immigration laws is Facism?
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Fri Aug 15, 2025 11:43 am
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Fri Aug 15, 2025 10:43 am


It's hard to believe you guys used to complain about Obama "overreach"
You win the internet today. :lol:
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Trolling works.
Amid MAGA backlash, Trump nemesis soars ahead in new poll

... California Gov. Gavin Newsom is leading by a large margin in a hypothetical 2028 Democratic presidential primary, an Emerson College poll revealed on Friday. Newsom recorded 25% support, a 13-point increase from June when he trailed behind other potential nominees at 12%.

Following behind Newsom is former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg with 16%, former Vice President Kamala Harris with 11%, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro with 5%, and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York with 4%, respectively.
Not much residual from AOC's 'No Oligarchs' tour. Okay, the nomination was always a long shot. Good to see a gay man doing well, but I've got absolutely nothing against Gavin.
... Some on the right have complained about the new strategy, with many claiming that he (Newsom) is copying Trump and his persona on Truth Social.
It's mocking, dummies.
... Per the poll, Vice President JD Vance has taken an even greater lead compared to Newsom on a 2028 Republican presidential primary ballot, with 52% of GOP voters backing his nomination. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has 9% of support, and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has 7%.

In a potential 2028 general election matchup between Newsom and Vance, they are tied, with both standing at 44% support. Twelve percent of voters remain undecided....
Ugh, the support for Just Deranged is sad.
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Fri Aug 29, 2025 11:26 pm
Trolling works.
Amid MAGA backlash, Trump nemesis soars ahead in new poll

... California Gov. Gavin Newsom is leading by a large margin in a hypothetical 2028 Democratic presidential primary, an Emerson College poll revealed on Friday. Newsom recorded 25% support, a 13-point increase from June when he trailed behind other potential nominees at 12%.

Following behind Newsom is former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg with 16%, former Vice President Kamala Harris with 11%, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro with 5%, and Illinois Governor JB Pritzker and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York with 4%, respectively.
Not much residual from AOC's 'No Oligarchs' tour. Okay, the nomination was always a long shot. Good to see a gay man doing well, but I've got absolutely nothing against Gavin.
... Some on the right have complained about the new strategy, with many claiming that he (Newsom) is copying Trump and his persona on Truth Social.
It's mocking, dummies.
... Per the poll, Vice President JD Vance has taken an even greater lead compared to Newsom on a 2028 Republican presidential primary ballot, with 52% of GOP voters backing his nomination. Secretary of State Marco Rubio has 9% of support, and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has 7%.

In a potential 2028 general election matchup between Newsom and Vance, they are tied, with both standing at 44% support. Twelve percent of voters remain undecided....
Ugh, the support for Just Deranged is sad.
As is the support for Newsom. However, he has the proper resume' for a democrat - being a terrible governor.

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Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:25 am
. However, he has the proper resume' for a democrat - being a terrible governor.
Don't you live in South Carolina? I guess you'd know terrible governors when you see one. But for people who actually live in California, Newsom currently sits with a 55% approval rate overall. 79% of Democrats approve of the way that Newsom is handling his job, 43% of independents and 9% of Republicans. The disapproval from Republicans seems to be largely from (1) general principles because he's a Dem and (2) his handling of water conservation issues affecting the Central Valley and (3) omigod he's distantly related to Pelosi! type stuff. But on actual performance issues:
Los Angeles wildfires. Disasters are tests of leadership, and California’s governor appears to have passed with flying colors after wildfires erupted in the state’s most populous county on January 7. Governor Newsom immediately joined forces with local leaders and residents while calling upon the legislature to move expeditiously on the response to and recovery from this historic disaster. Setting aside their political differences, Governor Newsom greeted President Trump on the tarmac at LAX in late January to tour the fire damage. In search of bipartisan support for federal dollars, Governor Newsom travelled to Washington to meet with Congressmembers and the president on February 5—the day before the interviewing began for our February survey. The governor’s actions struck a deep chord with Californians, 71% of whom say that wildfires in their region pose a very or somewhat serious threat to them.

State budget. The governor’s popularity can rise and fall with changes in state revenue and spending. After back-to-back years of state budget deficits, the governor’s budget proposal for the 2025–2026 fiscal year had the surprisingly good news of $16.5 billion more in revenue. Upon hearing a brief description of the proposal, 58% of Californians say they are in favor of it—including the increased spending for K–12 public education and health and human services, which residents cite as their top two priorities for state spending. In addition, 70% of Californians favor the governor’s proposal to use state bond funds to pay for wildfire and forest resilience programs. Finally, the governor’s proposal does not call for new taxes on residents, raising his public standing in a state where fewer than half prefer higher taxes and more services from their state government.
Your guy appears to be at about 43%. What's he done lately?

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O Really wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:16 am
Don't you live in South Carolina? I guess you'd know terrible governors when you see one. But for people who actually live in California, Newsom currently sits with a 55% approval rate overall.


Your guy appears to be at about 43%. What's he done lately?
Sadly, SoupySales lives in North Carolina.
55% in a very blue state is not a great rating to launch a national campaign from. Gavin should work on that. Otoh, his approval rate is double digits above where Dementia Don currently is.

Who does SoupySales support at this point? Is he a MAGA conformist backing Just Deranged or is he a maverick thinking for himself?

Just Deranged has the proper resumé for a RepuQ - acting as a proxy for Putin.
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O Really wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 11:16 am
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 6:25 am
. However, he has the proper resume' for a democrat - being a terrible governor.
Don't you live in South Carolina? I guess you'd know terrible governors when you see one. But for people who actually live in California, Newsom currently sits with a 55% approval rate overall. 79% of Democrats approve of the way that Newsom is handling his job, 43% of independents and 9% of Republicans. The disapproval from Republicans seems to be largely from (1) general principles because he's a Dem and (2) his handling of water conservation issues affecting the Central Valley and (3) omigod he's distantly related to Pelosi! type stuff. But on actual performance issues:
Los Angeles wildfires. Disasters are tests of leadership, and California’s governor appears to have passed with flying colors after wildfires erupted in the state’s most populous county on January 7. Governor Newsom immediately joined forces with local leaders and residents while calling upon the legislature to move expeditiously on the response to and recovery from this historic disaster. Setting aside their political differences, Governor Newsom greeted President Trump on the tarmac at LAX in late January to tour the fire damage. In search of bipartisan support for federal dollars, Governor Newsom travelled to Washington to meet with Congressmembers and the president on February 5—the day before the interviewing began for our February survey. The governor’s actions struck a deep chord with Californians, 71% of whom say that wildfires in their region pose a very or somewhat serious threat to them.

State budget. The governor’s popularity can rise and fall with changes in state revenue and spending. After back-to-back years of state budget deficits, the governor’s budget proposal for the 2025–2026 fiscal year had the surprisingly good news of $16.5 billion more in revenue. Upon hearing a brief description of the proposal, 58% of Californians say they are in favor of it—including the increased spending for K–12 public education and health and human services, which residents cite as their top two priorities for state spending. In addition, 70% of Californians favor the governor’s proposal to use state bond funds to pay for wildfire and forest resilience programs. Finally, the governor’s proposal does not call for new taxes on residents, raising his public standing in a state where fewer than half prefer higher taxes and more services from their state government.
Your guy appears to be at about 43%. What's he done lately?
I live in NC.

Not surprised the folks who have not left CA think well of Newsom. They should enjoy the misery.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 1:35 pm

Not surprised the folks who have not left CA think well of Newsom. They should enjoy the misery.
You mean the current 39 or so million residents who "have not left"? California is a huge state in geography, culture, and population and not everywhere in the state is the same. Like any other state, it has its faults. It's expensive, but to a lot of people, including myself, it's well worth it.
I'm guessing you must have lived in California sometime in the past in order to have such an understanding of the "misery."

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