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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:17 pm
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Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:28 am
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:46 am

Just a reminder. The genesis of this event is Kimmel lied that the shooter was MAGA. All indications are he had moved away from his parents' conservative values. He was hardly MAGA.
Fair enough, although given the various and varied unfounded claims about the shooter, it was hardly a totally ridiculous thought. Anyway, he's entitled to his opinion and the issue isn't what he said or even about Disney's right to close his show. The issue is governmental threats used to stifle dissent. Unprecedented in the US by any other President of any party. Not so unusual in places like Soviet (or current) Russia, China, etc.
I do not like the idea of the government threatening above proper law enforcement. Knowing the history of Disney, they likely read the public and felt Kimmel was inappropriate. Also, they did CBA and found, like Colbert< the contract with Kimmel was too much of a burden for the return.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 12:29 am
It's like they had a fascist game plan sitting on the shelf awaiting an event like the execution of Charlie.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/1967644960917778911 (video)


:roll: As we've proved most American political violence comes from the right. No small measure has been inspired by hateful Stephen Miller.


https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/1967689247085015268 (Stephen Miller videos)


Hey Miller, :obscene-birdiered:
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Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:28 am
Fair enough, although given the various and varied unfounded claims about the shooter, it was hardly a totally ridiculous thought. Anyway, he's entitled to his opinion and the issue isn't what he said or even about Disney's right to close his show. The issue is governmental threats used to stifle dissent. Unprecedented in the US by any other President of any party. Not so unusual in places like Soviet (or current) Russia, China, etc.
Exactly. Kimmel never "lied", SoupySales LIES about that. Rather, Kimmel just pointed out how desperate the right was to deny that the shooter was MAGA.
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Cancel culture is alive and well.

Feckless fucks.


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... During Kimmel’s Monday night monologue, the comedian criticized right-wingers for trying to “score political points” off Kirk’s murder, after they spent the weekend attempting to blame the left broadly, and trans people more specifically, for the shooting, well before the public knew much — if anything — about the shooter’s motives.

“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said on his show.

Fox News, for its part, took those comments to mean that Kimmel had suggested the “Kirk shooter was part of [the] ‘MAGA gang,’” though that’s not really what he said.
Bazinga, and SoupySales swallows it.
... The decisions by Nexstar and ABC to silence Kimmel, over relatively innocuous comments, is the latest sign of how terrified major corporations and media companies have grown of the second Trump administration. The president and his lieutenants have made clear that they’re willing to leverage the full weight of the federal government against networks and their parent companies, especially if TV personalities or comedians on the network say things that annoy Trump.

In the hours leading up to the decision to pull Kimmel, two sources familiar with the matter say, senior executives at ABC, its owner Disney, and affiliates convened emergency meetings to figure out how to minimize the damage. Multiple execs felt that Kimmel had not actually said anything over the line, the two sources say, but the threat of Trump administration retaliation loomed.

“They were pissing themselves all day,” one ABC insider tells Rolling Stone.

Even before Trump won the 2024 election, he and some of his closest advisers had plotted how to use the FCC and other powerful federal organs to punish late-night comics whom Trump has hated for years....
This is really about Dear Leader's hurt feewings.

Not long ago the American right would have loudly rejected such government intervention in private business matters. Now, SoupySales is defending it. Talk about moving away from "conservative values"!

As for Tyler Robinson, all we know is that he had a trans roommate or lover and that he rejected Charlie's hate. So far, we have no evidence that Robinson shared other liberal values like recapturing some of the wealth the fatcats have stolen from the working and middle classes, desiring a clean environment, supporting reasonable gun control, choosing science over fantasy, etc. So, SoupySales must be saying that bigotry and hate now define "conservative values." We agree on that 100%!!!

I can see where Kimmel was coming from. When I posted the above I strongly considered adding something like:
If a Tyler Robinson hadn't come along, MAGA would have invented one.
A MAGA shooter was possible given some RW dissatisfaction with Charlie, but so would have been a lefty manipulated into doing the deed, or even a hired/extorted assassin.

Kimmel suspended = Fascism Is here
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"how desperate the right was to deny that the shooter was MAGA."

He was not MAGA. What is wrong with pointing that out other than it diaarms the left's narrative.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:17 pm
"how desperate the right was to deny that the shooter was MAGA."

He was not MAGA. What is wrong with pointing that out other than it diaarms the left's narrative.
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:17 pm
"how desperate the right was to deny that the shooter was MAGA."

He was not MAGA. What is wrong with pointing that out other than it diaarms the left's narrative.
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
I can't help it if you continue to try to sell the guy was MAGA.

I believe you are confirming my belief you are just a Vrede wannabe. The name calling has begun.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:10 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:17 pm
"how desperate the right was to deny that the shooter was MAGA."

He was not MAGA. What is wrong with pointing that out other than it diaarms the left's narrative.
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
I can't help it if you continue to try to sell the guy was MAGA.

I believe you are confirming my belief you are just a Vrede wannabe. The name calling has begun.
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Dementia?

Fuck it, I'm blocking this idiot. Willful ignorance, logic fallacies and a general lack of awareness of the world around him isn't worth responding to.
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That's why I blocked SoupySales months ago, too many pointless and dumb rabbit holes that there is no escape from. Waste of my time.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
:o :roll: :laughing-rolling: The left accurately pointed out that Tyler Robinson could be MAGA given dissension/jealousies on the right, and accurately pointed out that he came from an ammosexual MAGA household in an ammosexual MAGA community in a MAGA state. It is those truths that the right is desperate to distract from, and that is ALL that Kimmel stated.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:19 pm
That's why I blocked SoupySales months ago, too many pointless and dumb rabbit holes that there was no escape from.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
:o :roll: :laughing-rolling: The left accurately pointed out that Tyler Robinson could be MAGA given dissension/jealousies on the right, and accurately pointed out that he came from an ammosexual MAGA household in an ammosexual MAGA community in a MAGA state. It is those truths that the right is desperate to distract from, and that is ALL that Kimmel stated.
Especially when you compare the right including DonOld and Vance SCREAMING that Robinson was a left wing extremist.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:25 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 3:19 pm
That's why I blocked SoupySales months ago, too many pointless and dumb rabbit holes that there was no escape from.
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 2:57 pm
Go back to CPF.

You're too stupid to carry on a conversation here.
:o :roll: :laughing-rolling: The left accurately pointed out that Tyler Robinson could be MAGA given dissension/jealousies on the right, and accurately pointed out that he came from an ammosexual MAGA household in an ammosexual MAGA community in a MAGA state. It is those truths that the right is desperate to distract from, and that is ALL that Kimmel stated.
Especially when you compare the right including DonOld and Vance SCREAMING that Robinson is a left wing extremist.
Without actual proof of any kind. Don't forget MAGA Utah Gov Cox (apt name) and Stephen "Maniac" Miller.
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Not fascist at all.

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Oh yeah,

I canceled my Disney Plus plus and Hulu subscriptions today.
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Not fascist at all.

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Levity's "devout Christian" glare of death. :wtf:
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Thu Sep 18, 2025 4:59 pm
Oh yeah,

I canceled my Disney Plus plus and Hulu subscriptions today.
Did you tell them why?

I didn't get old fast enough.
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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:46 am
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:49 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:51 pm
Cancel culture is alive and well.

Feckless fucks.

Jimmy Kimmel Live!' pulled off air 'indefinitely' by ABC over Charlie Kirk shooting comments
The announcement came after FCC Chairman Brendan Carr criticized Kimmel and said, "We can do this the easy way or the hard way."




ABC announced on Wednesday that it was pulling Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night talk show off the air “indefinitely” after Brendan Carr, the Federal Communications Commission chair, criticized comments Kimmel made earlier this week about the motives of the man accused of killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk.

Carr also suggested the FCC could move to revoke ABC affiliate licenses as a way of forcing Disney, the network’s parent company, to punish Kimmel.

The controversy started Monday when Kimmel questioned the ideological leanings ascribed to Kirk’s accused killer, Tyler Robinson, and said the “MAGA gang” — i.e., supporters of President Trump and his “Make America great again” slogan — was trying to “score political points” by calling Robinson a left-wing radical.





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I guess Brendan Carr thinks that Fox News, who was forced to pay the largest ever libel judgement for continual lies about a rigged election, is adhering to the FCC mandate that broadcast license holders must operate "in the public interest" in spite of the massive and continued lying Fox puts out. But Kimmel speculating that the Kirk killer was "one of them" goes too far. I actually cannot believe some of the things that are happening.
Just a reminder. The genesis of this event is Kimmel lied that the shooter was MAGA. All indications are he had moved away from his parents' conservative values. He was hardly MAGA.
Just a reminder.....this isn't about what the motive was. it's about free speech (something Kirk was famously in favor of) and how suddenly right wongers are all about censoring people who make comments they don't like. Hell, Kirk specifically said that hate speech is the most in need of protection. Didn't you know that?

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neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:55 pm

Just a reminder.....this isn't about what the motive was. it's about free speech (something Kirk was famously in favor of) and how suddenly right wongers are all about censoring people who make comments they don't like. Hell, Kirk specifically said that hate speech is the most in need of protection. Didn't you know that?
If he still had comprehension capabilities he'd know that, but the brainwashing and logic fallacies are deep in that one.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:46 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:55 pm

Just a reminder.....this isn't about what the motive was. it's about free speech (something Kirk was famously in favor of) and how suddenly right wongers are all about censoring people who make comments they don't like. Hell, Kirk specifically said that hate speech is the most in need of protection. Didn't you know that?
If he still had comprehension capabilities he'd know that, but the brainwashing and logic fallacies are deep in that one.
Yeah, it would seem so. But I think that's a requirement. I forgot to remind him that minutes after trump learned of it, he declared the shooter was a "radical left wing Democrat" days before the suspect was apprehended. The governor of Utah did a lesser version of the same thing. The blinding lack of self awareness of these people never ceases to amaze me. They stand for and believe in nothing but what they're told.

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