The Food Thread

[GoCubsGo]

Bought egglands best large today for just under $7. Lowest it's been lately.

Bought 18 Roundy's brand for $6. Down from $9 but still high.

[1 CAT FAN]

Bought egglands best large today for just under $7. Lowest it's been lately.

Meanwhile, the cult gushes in awe in stupefied awe in anticipation of being totally fucked by trump. Hell, they would cheer as they walk into a blast furnace for the dear leader. And the totally bamboozled will obsess over gated communities, oblivious of the fact that many wealthy Republicans live in them.....like the dear leader. Hilarious.

Hypocritical leftists live in them too! Ask O Really. Y'all just hold hands inside the gate and sing Kum By Yah. Don't forget your hominy, the Superstar Cultmaster, brings a rainbow aura inside the community.

[Vrede too]

Trump says egg prices are falling. Some experts say the claim is misleading.

King Tang LIES, as usual.

Plus, given that avian flu is driving the egg shortage, no POTUS can have much effect on egg prices. King Tang LIES about that, too.

[O Really]

I'd like to suggest a non-scientific food price survey. Everybody probably has an Albertson's-owned store (Albertson's, Safeway, Vons, Shaw) or a Kroger-owned store (Kroger, Fred Meyers, Smiths, Ralphs, QFC). If we just reported a price from anywhere, it could reflect more the difference in store chain rather than the regional price, so let's try to compare from those two national chains. If all you have is Publix, that would work too, pretty much comparable to the Kroger stores. Price these items:

1. Dozen eggs, grade A Large, house brand or Eggland's Best
2. Gallon of milk
3. Pound of bananas
4. A pound ground beef, 85%

Also, include lowest price of regular gas at whatever station you'd actually go to.

My answers:
1. $6.99, Vons
2. $4.39, Vons
3. .69 pretty much everywhere
4. $4.99 Vons

$4.19 - Local/regional gas/convenience chain. Most stations are more like $4.39 - $4.69, and $5+ at the freeway ramp stations.

[Supsalemgr]

We don't have any of the Albertson or Kroger brands here. Mostly Ingles and some Publix.

My answers:
Eggs - $4.97
Milk - $2.88
Bananas - $.59
Beef - $5.28

Bought gas this morning and it was $2.69

[GoCubsGo]

With no actual insight or knowledge I would bet it's more demographic based. I live in an affluent area even though I'm on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak.

I filled up Saturday outside of town for $3.59. In town was $3.79. If I drive seven miles west it's $3.39.

The hoity toity grocery stores generally command a 25-50% premium on produce and meats, although their quality is generally superior.

I'm a notorious sale shopper, even clipping digital coupons. I generally save 25-30% on my grocery bill.
The Jewel, Krogers etc. generally run good sales and my protein purchases are almost 100% sale driven.

Heck, I'll even shop ALDI a few times a year, they have organic produce to boot (no proteins though, not really any good deals and it's not like they have butchers on site ). The savings are mind blowing.

[GoCubsGo]

We don't have any of the Albertson or Kroger brands here. Mostly Ingles and some Publix.

My answers:
Eggs - $4.97
Milk - $2.88
Bananas - $.59
Beef - $5.28

Bought gas this morning and it was $2.69

You have (had, and will have again) Harris Teeter (Kroger).

I'd say my non sale grocery prices are comparable except for beef,

[Vrede too]

Not food-related, but since you also brought up gas prices here:

... Also, include lowest price of regular gas at whatever station you'd actually go to....

$4.19 - Local/regional gas/convenience chain. Most stations are more like $4.39 - $4.69, and $5+ at the freeway ramp stations.

... I filled up Saturday outside of town for $3.59. In town was $3.79. If I drive seven miles west it's $3.39....

I haven't looked yet.

Maggie Haberman Spots Donald Trump Supporter Revolt In Unexpected Place
The New York Times journalist said she'd "never seen pushback" on the president there before.

The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman noted to CNN’s Kaitlan Collins a rare instance of blowback against Donald Trump from the usually loyal supporters who use his Truth Social platform.

Trump recently falsely claimed on the site, “Gasoline just broke $1.98 a gallon, lowest in years.” Collins noted the national average for gas is actually currently about $3.18 per gallon.

He's done it again. Idiot.

Haberman acknowledged that while recent job numbers and stock market gains offer some legitimate “good news” for the Trump White House, some of the president’s statements on lowered prices “just don’t comport with reality.”

S&P 500 INDEX is slightly down today, as GoCubsGo predicted, but it's still down 7.3% since the inauguration and the stock market gains are only since PINO's own early April tariff crash.

Similarly, the Unemployment Rate is up half a percent since Jan. Opps.

And what is “interesting,” she continued in a video shared online, is how “a bunch of replies” to a similar post from Trump about prices said “essentially, ‘Not where I live,’ ‘Not where I live,’ ‘Not where I live.’”

The posts on the president’s platform are “normally very praising of” Trump, she noted. “So there is actually a limit to how much he can keep saying that and have his own voters believe him but he right now seems to believe himself.”

Collins agreed, telling Haberman: “That’s actually really interesting because I have a Truth Social account to obviously monitor what the president says but people who get Truth Social accounts typically are supporters of the president.”

Haberman responded: “I had never seen pushback on something he was saying before and there was still some praise in response but there were a number of comments of people saying, ‘That’s not happening where I am.’”

, even on "Truth" Social.

[Supsalemgr]

We don't have any of the Albertson or Kroger brands here. Mostly Ingles and some Publix.

My answers:
Eggs - $4.97
Milk - $2.88
Bananas - $.59
Beef - $5.28

Bought gas this morning and it was $2.69

You have (had, and will have again) Harris Teeter (Kroger).

I'd say my non sale grocery prices are comparable except for beef,

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

[O Really]

With no actual insight or knowledge I would bet it's more demographic based. I live in an affluent area even though I'm on the wrong side of the tracks so to speak.

I filled up Saturday outside of town for $3.59. In town was $3.79. If I drive seven miles west it's $3.39.

The hoity toity grocery stores generally command a 25-50% premium on produce and meats, although their quality is generally superior.

I'm a notorious sale shopper, even clipping digital coupons. I generally save 25-30% on my grocery bill.
The Jewel, Krogers etc. generally run good sales and my protein purchases are almost 100% sale driven.

Heck, I'll even shop ALDI a few times a year, they have organic produce to boot (no proteins though, not really any good deals and it's not like they have butchers on site ). The savings are mind blowing.

Sure there are neighborhood differences, but I thought comparing same-chain prices might give the best view. I get a lot of use out of my Vons/Albertsons app, and we also shop sales. Some items are consistently and significantly lower at WalMart's grocery too. Milk and eggs are about a dollar each lower than other stores, and bananas are (today) .50. IRL, we shop at a variety of stores. I guess we could compare "lowest price available" for the items.

[O Really]

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

[Supsalemgr]

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

Just thought it was a Charlotte based store. I just hope Ingles stays a local firm. I am sure with their dominance in the area they are a target.

[GoCubsGo]

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

Same with my Mariano's.

[GoCubsGo]

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

Just thought it was a Charlotte based store. I just hope Ingles stays a local firm. I am sure with their dominance in the area they are a target.

Ingles is fine for staple stuff, but if you want anything resembling quality it's not the place to go.

Nix on..

Bakery
Deli
Most produce
Meat
Fish
Specialty cheeses and such.

[Supsalemgr]

The Harris-Teeter is due to reopen within the next couple months. I have been in Hendersonville for 27 years and have no memory of any Krogers here.

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

Just thought it was a Charlotte based store. I just hope Ingles stays a local firm. I am sure with their dominance in the area they are a target.

I agree. However, it seems they are trying upgrade some. Putting Starbucks in their stores and expanding the deli options.


Ingles is fine for staple stuff, but if you want anything resembling quality it's not the place to go.

Nix on..

Bakery
Deli
Most produce
Meat
Fish
Specialty cheeses and such.

[Vrede too]

Harris Teeter has been a Kroger-owned chain for about 10 years.

Same with my Mariano's.

You Might Be Overpaying at Kroger (or Kroger-owned stores), According to a New Pricing Audit
Whether it’s $1.50 here or $2.00 there, it’s all adding up — and experts warn this quiet issue is more common than you think.

Key Points

* Consumer Reports found widespread pricing errors at Kroger, with outdated sale tags causing shoppers to overpay by an average of 18.4%.

* Employees and investigators allege Kroger is aware of the issue, but ongoing staffing cuts have made it harder to fix, particularly in stores with the most errors.

* Consumers are advised to check receipts carefully, take photos of shelf prices, and report discrepancies to store managers or state consumer protection agencies.

[Vrede too]

Whack9
banni
Maybe neoplacebo

The FDA has updated a tomato recall to its highest risk warning of illness or death. Here's how to check if your recent produce purchase may be impacted.
The latest recall affects three states.

"The latest recall is for three states: Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina."

I get my produce at the Co-op, so I'm not at the end of the commercial pipeline. They are not issuing warnings/recalls.

[Vrede too]

NEW tomato recall :

Tomatoes recalled in 8 states for salmonella risk — what to know
Fresh vine-ripe tomatoes sold in clamshell packaging have been recalled in multiple states after routine testing found potential salmonella contamination.

Fresh tomatoes sold in clear plastic clamshells have been recalled across several states due to concerns over salmonella contamination....

The affected tomatoes were shipped between April 29 and May 3, 2025, to retailers in Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia and Wisconsin....

A little late. Who still has month-old tomatoes?

[Vrede too]

This could might have gone in the leopards thread, but I don't want to make assumptions about dairy farmers or farmers in general, even though we know the rural returns.

Farmers panic as Trump’s immigration raids spark ‘black swan event’ warning from agriculture CEO

... A report released by the U.S. Labor Department earlier in the month found that a shortage of undocumented workers “results in significant disruptions to production costs and threatening the stability of domestic food production and prices for U.S consumers."

The latest statistics from the U.S. Department of Agriculture suggest that about 42% of farm workers were born outside of the country and lack legal worth authorization.

There are also some job openings at Labor and Ag.

The dairy industry estimates that the majority, about 51%, of its workforce are [immigrants], according to the National Milk Producers Federation.

(Land O’Lakes CEO Beth) Ford told Fortune earlier in the month that a food-related crisis could occur within just [right] hours of an immigration raid at a farm.

“If there’s nobody there, the cow starts to leak milk,” Ford explained. “After 24 hours, you really get into crisis with the animal—they could have an infection."

Already, dairy farmer workers have been detained [by] immigration agents across the country, from New York to Vermont and California.

Thanks, MAGA.

[Vrede too]

I eat farmed freshwater fish like catfish, trout and crawdads. I figure that they are usually kept separate from wild populations and even help in the conservation of their wild cousins.

It's different with farmed seafood. I avoid it.

What we’ve done to the salmon

Inside this story

Over half of the world’s seafood now comes from fish farms, which resemble underwater factory farms.

Chickens, pigs, and cows were domesticated over thousands of years, but fish have been domesticated in under a century. It’s created serious welfare issues, especially for salmon.

Salmon are carnivorous and migrate thousands of miles. On farms, they’re reduced to swimming in small tanks and eating pellets.

Fish farming has taken over the seafood sector, but some experts argue that it’s moved too fast, and we need to better understand welfare issues.

Even under perfect conditions wild population conservation gets compromised rather than enhanced. Then . . .

Scientists issue warning after creatures escape containment during massive storm: 'Major genetic changes'

All large scale industrial operations have disasters sooner or later. With some there is no recovery.

As for wild seafood, I rarely buy it and then only from the Co-op. Even so, I grill ( ) the guy behind the counter about its provenance.