I do not support Hawaiian sovereignty in any way, shape or form. I don't care whether America "stole" Hawaiian.land or not. You don't go backwards.
I support the rights of private entities. Currently, there is yet another legal challenge to Kamehameha School's admissions policy that says students must have Hawaiian blood. They claim it is discrimination. Well, the founder of the school (Princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop) set that policy in her will. She made the school happen. Her wishes need to be honored.
So you support affirmation action?
Aren't those contradictory positions? If Hawaii is American that means ALL of America, including the 14th and 15th amendments which preclude racial discrimination and any existing codicils which demand it.
To be clear, I have no opinion on either though Hawaiian sovereignty sounds like a pipe dream in 2026. I just thought it interesting that you take stances that lead to different conclusions.
Jasmine wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:14 pmI don’t support affirmative action. At all.
I see the Kamehameha Schools situation as more of a private entity vs public entity situation. I think the private school should be able to set their own admissions policies.
Affirmative action - Bad when private schools address 400+ years of Black slavery and Jim Crow. Good when private schools address native Hawaiian grievances.
Got it.
Did you ever wonder what you'd have done during the rise of fascism? You're doing it right now.
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I do not support Hawaiian sovereignty in any way, shape or form. I don't care whether America "stole" Hawaiian.land or not. You don't go backwards.
I support the rights of private entities. Currently, there is yet another legal challenge to Kamehameha School's admissions policy that says students must have Hawaiian blood. They claim it is discrimination. Well, the founder of the school (Princess Bernice Pauahi Bishop) set that policy in her will. She made the school happen. Her wishes need to be honored.
So you support affirmation action?
Aren't those contradictory positions? If Hawaii is American that means ALL of America, including the 14th and 15th amendments which preclude racial discrimination and any existing codicils which demand it.
To be clear, I have no opinion on either though Hawaiian sovereignty sounds like a pipe dream in 2026. I just thought it interesting that you take stances that lead to different conclusions.
Jasmine wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:14 pmI don’t support affirmative action. At all.
I see the Kamehameha Schools situation as more of a private entity vs public entity situation. I think the private school should be able to set their own admissions policies.
Affirmative action - Bad when private schools address 400+ years of Black slavery and Jim Crow. Good when private schools address native Hawaiian grievances.
Got it.
That doesn’t make sense. I support private schools having the freedom to make their own decisions no matter what the situation is. Ditto for private companies.
Vrede too wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:31 pmAffirmative action - Bad when private schools address 400+ years of Black slavery and Jim Crow. Good when private schools address native Hawaiian grievances.
Got it.
That doesn’t make sense. I support private schools having the freedom to make their own decisions no matter what the situation is. Ditto for private companies.
Of course it makes sense if you've been following the issue. The con feds, DonOLD and the courts, have banned race-based AA for private schools.
You support this race-based AA for a Hawaiian school.
Did you ever wonder what you'd have done during the rise of fascism? You're doing it right now.
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Vrede too wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:31 pmAffirmative action - Bad when private schools address 400+ years of Black slavery and Jim Crow. Good when private schools address native Hawaiian grievances.
Got it.
That doesn’t make sense. I support private schools having the freedom to make their own decisions no matter what the situation is. Ditto for private companies.
Of course it makes sense if you've been following the issue. The con feds, DonOLD and the courts, have banned race-based AA for private schools.
You support this race-based AA for a Hawaiian school.
Once again, for the third time, I view this as a private school’s rights matter.
Vrede too wrote: Sat Feb 28, 2026 11:31 pmAffirmative action - Bad when private schools address 400+ years of Black slavery and Jim Crow. Good when private schools address native Hawaiian grievances.
Got it.
That doesn’t make sense. I support private schools having the freedom to make their own decisions no matter what the situation is. Ditto for private companies.
Of course it makes sense if you've been following the issue. The con feds, DonOLD and the courts, have banned race-based AA for private schools.
You support this race-based AA for a Hawaiian school.
Once again, for the third time, I view this as a private school’s rights matter.
We've had this discussion before. You are such a hardcore libertarian that you would have endorsed private businesses imposing the hateful and abominable Jim Crow.
Sorry, no Hawaiians or Japs allowed at this lunch counter.
Did you ever wonder what you'd have done during the rise of fascism? You're doing it right now.
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