Trayvon Martin

[Roland Deschain]

The only thing that you have "grasped" is your mindless racial bias based on political correctness rather than the facts. If Trayvon Martin had been white and all other things were the same, would we be having this conversation? How about if GZ had been black? I seriously doubt it...you are like All Sharpton on this. Facts do not matter...the justice system does not matter. All that matters is defending liberal allies regardless of the truth.

Your statement is well proven by the liberal's silence on other cases of black on black, or black on white violence and lets not forget that Zimmerman is NOT white he is hispanic....well according the the NY Times he is white hispanic

[Mr.B]

"Valarie Houston, pastor of Allen Chapel Church said a prayer thanking the Lord for sending Trayvon Martin “as a sacrifice for all of us.” She said his death revealed “injustices that lie in Sanford” and that he gave “his life to protect the youth who will come after him.”

Why, just yesterday in church, we echoed the same sentiments by the laying on of hands, burnt offerings, speaking in tongues, singing hyms,
and finally, declared July 14 as "Trayvon Martin Day" by offering him up as a martyr so as to protect the lives of all future youths, and thanking
the Lord for sending him to this earth as a sacrifice.....

Gag me with a spoon.......how dumb and flammatory can you get...?

[Ombudsman]

"Valarie Houston, pastor of Allen Chapel Church said a prayer thanking the Lord for sending Trayvon Martin “as a sacrifice for all of us.” She said his death revealed “injustices that lie in Sanford” and that he gave “his life to protect the youth who will come after him.”

Why, just yesterday in church, we echoed the same sentiments by the laying on of hands, burnt offerings, speaking in tongues, singing hyms,
and finally, declared July 14 as "Trayvon Martin Day" by offering him up as a martyr so as to protect the lives of all future youths, and thanking
the Lord for sending him to this earth as a sacrifice.....

Gag me with a spoon.......how dumb and flammatory can you get...?

You mean more so than you just were? I thought you were all about worshipping martyrs. When did that change?

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Roland Deschain]

...lets not forget that Zimmerman is NOT white he is hispanic....well according the the NY Times he is white hispanic

"hispanic" is an ethnicity, not a race. They come in all colors, dummy. His father is a white American of German descent and his mother is Peruvian with some black ancestry, thus making GZ a majority-white, half-hispanic or in shorthand "white hispanic".

And yet you scream "racist" every time someone speaks against hispanics in this area. Funny how your opinion changes to fit your argument. Even funnier is how the "shorthand" term was coined for Zimmerman and not used before.

[O Really]

Commenting on things I have personal knowledge of, having been in a Florida Community watch...

"Nosy".....skank Vrede lie. What part of "Neighborhood Watch" is screwing up that peabrain of yours?

"Stalked".....skank Vrede lie. GZ followed and reported to police, who asked details of what Martin was doing and how police could find him.

Specific instructions to all involved: If you see something suspicious, call the police. Do not confront them. Go or stay in your home.
... Do not carry a firearm when engaging in community watch activities. If you are confronted, make all reasonable efforts to walk away from the situation (despite what one might legally be allowed to do).

So the jury handed down the verdict it handed down. That part's over. Doesn't change the events that happened, though, and Zimmerman was indeed - clearly - off the reservation in his actions, at least in claiming to be involved in community watch.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Roland Deschain]

"hispanic" is an ethnicity, not a race. They come in all colors, dummy.

Run away from by Roland Deschain, as usual.

His father is a white American of German descent and his mother is Peruvian with some black ancestry, thus making GZ a majority-white, half-hispanic or in shorthand "white hispanic".

And yet you scream "racist" every time someone speaks against hispanics in this area.

Only if they're being racist. You're making things up, again.

How can someone be racist against a non-racial entity?? Your rabid enthusiasm to throw the racist card has blinded you to your own hypocrisy and screw up

[Mr.B]

"I thought you were all about worshipping martyrs. When did that change?"

Where did that come from?

Never changed because it's never happened.

What's with this personal vendetta you have against me anyway? What's wrong with you?

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[Mr.B]

Back to the thread:

Trayvon Martin wasn't exactly a shining example of an All-American teenager.

This entire fiasco is nothing more than an outward showing of hatred of gun owners and people in authority. GZ was a Neighborhood Watch
person with aspirations of one day being a cop, who in one fleeting moment, made a mistake that ruined his life forever, and cost the life of another.
The anti-gun nuts, along with the Black community are screaming 'racism' because of the racial difference; the same 'racism' cries would be present had
a real white cop shot TM; 'police brutality' would have been the cry had it been a Black cop who shot TM......but now because a jury of his peers has
exonerated him of wrong doing, he is now a "cowardly racist" who must live a life in hiding because of cowardly, glory-seeking idiots phoning death
threats to his parents, attorneys, and even the authorities.

These cowards and the gun-haters are no better than the labels being laid on GZ, and if the truth be known, they probably really don't give a rat's
butt about TM or GZ...all they want is their jollies by anonymously threatening someone or pizzin' & moanin' about guns.

Maybe, before long, the beating of this dead horse will cease; but as long as the media sees sensationalism in a story, it may take a while.

[Roland Deschain]

Back to the thread:

Trayvon Martin wasn't exactly a shining example of an All-American teenager.

This entire fiasco is nothing more than an outward showing of hatred of gun owners and people in authority. GZ was a Neighborhood Watch
person with aspirations of one day being a cop, who in one fleeting moment, made a mistake that ruined his life forever, and cost the life of another.
The anti-gun nuts, along with the Black community are screaming 'racism' because of the racial difference; the same 'racism' cries would be present had
a real white cop shot TM; 'police brutality' would have been the cry had it been a Black cop who shot TM......but now because a jury of his peers has
exonerated him of wrong doing, he is now a "cowardly racist" who must live a life in hiding because of cowardly, glory-seeking idiots phoning death
threats to his parents, attorneys, and even the authorities.

These cowards and the gun-haters are no better than the labels being laid on GZ, and if the truth be known, they probably really don't give a rat's
butt about TM or GZ...all they want is their jollies by anonymously threatening someone or pizzin' & moanin' about guns.

Maybe, before long, the beating of this dead horse will cease; but as long as the media sees sensationalism in a story, it may take a while.

Again a spot on post that is proven by the liberal silence regarding black on black or black on white crime. It seems to me that those who tend to throw the word "racist" the most, fit the model the best.

[neoplacebo]

I don't see any of us being rabid racists about this; it's just wrong on so many levels....my biggest thing is why is Martin lying on the grass quite a distance away from the sidewalk that doomed him? I don't know; I wasn't on the jury. But I'm not gonna go buy a gun or do anything else that I would not normally do. I'm disappointed in the verdict, but I've been disappointed before.

[Mr.B]

"I don't see any of us being rabid racists about this; it's just wrong on so many levels....my biggest thing is why is Martin lying on the grass quite a distance away from the sidewalk that doomed him? I don't know; I wasn't on the jury. But I'm not gonna go buy a gun or do anything else that I would not normally do. I'm disappointed in the verdict, but I've been disappointed before."

Exactly. I wasn't there the night of the shooting, nor was I there in the courtroom to hear the testimony, nor was I on the jury.
I have to be satisfied that the jury reached, what they felt in their hearts, was the right decision.

Because Zimmerman owned and was carrying a gun is not going to make me scream out and curse gun-owners.
Because Zimmerman was not of the Black race is not going to cause me to scream he was a cowardly racist for killing Martin.
Because the jury found him innocent is not going to cause me to curse the legal system and threaten violence against my city and the authorities therein.
Because the jury found him innocent is not going to cause me to call someone and threaten their lives.....

As you said, "I've been disappointed before"... and you and I will be disappointed again before we check out.

[UnLurker]

Strike three. I'm out.

[UnLurker]

Strike three.

[O Really]

Some of you may have forgotten a fundamental fact. A guy (nevermind race) shot and killed another guy (nevermind race) under circumstances that remain unproven and in some doubt because the only direct witness is the one who did the shooting and who therefore has a strong vested interest in telling a story that makes him blameless.

What happened may not meet the threshhold for murder 2 or manslaughter. But most thinking people remain aghast that in Florida you can follow and shoot somebody, claim you were scared, and walk away.

[Roland Deschain]

Again a spot on post that is proven by the liberal silence regarding black on black or black on white crime.

We're against it. Only you are stupid enough to post on and on as if we aren't.[/color]

I post on and on as if you are not against because you fools post on and on about the Zimmerman/Martin confrontation while ignoring countless others of black on white or black on black. Why the double standard? If you are going to post page, after page, after page, for one should not another you are "against" not get the same attention, or are you just lying again in order to protect your rabid liberal ideals????

[billy.pilgrim]

Again a spot on post that is proven by the liberal silence regarding black on black or black on white crime.

We're against it. Only you are stupid enough to post on and on as if we aren't.[/color]

I post on and on as if you are not against because you fools post on and on about the Zimmerman/Martin confrontation while ignoring countless others of black on white or black on black. Why the double standard? If you are going to post page, after page, after page, for one should not another you are "against" not get the same attention, or are you just lying again in order to protect your rabid liberal ideals????

rolie, most people and some conservatives are against all manner of crime - it doesn't matter what color did what to who. crime that makes headlines and especially crime where the criminals go free tends to cause discussion. the wannabe cop zimmerman should have gone to prison and right minded people are upset - I can see why you want to change the subject

[O Really]

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I post on and on as if you are not against because you fools post on and on about the Zimmerman/Martin confrontation while ignoring countless others of black on white or black on black. Why the double standard? If you are going to post page, after page, after page, for one should not another you are "against" not get the same attention, or are you just lying again in order to protect your rabid liberal ideals????

The name of this particular thread is Treyvon Martin. If you want to start a thread about black on black crime, I'll be happy to join in. If we were discussing guns, would you complain that we aren't addressing archery issues?