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indago wrote:
Mr.B wrote:"I wonder who's going to be crying the loudest when it's finally over and all those spent millions may have well been flushed down the toilet ???"
"Look at the bright side: "all those spent millions" came out of the pockets of the money interests and into the economy."
I suppose that is one way to look at it......sad part is, only a handful of businesses benefitted from the largest portion of the monies.....

TV ads were aired by stations whose parent companies are not in NC.....
All the junk mailings were printed by companies in other states.....

I'm certain there are other situations, but I'll go with these two for now.

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Mr.B wrote: TV ads were aired by stations whose parent companies are not in NC.....
All the junk mailings were printed by companies in other states.....
May be, but it's not like we don't have a national economy. But $100mill on a senate race ought to be criminal. Think of all the better value for that money. Of course, if they hadn't spent it on the campaign doesn't mean they actually would have spent it to feed some hungry kid.

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O Really wrote: "But $100mill on a senate race ought to be criminal. Think of all the better value for that money.
Of course, if they hadn't spent it on the campaign doesn't mean they actually would have spent it to feed some hungry kid."
My thoughts exactly; there's those "fact-finding" trips to the Caribbean to consider.

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Mr.B wrote:
O Really wrote: "But $100mill on a senate race ought to be criminal. Think of all the better value for that money.
Of course, if they hadn't spent it on the campaign doesn't mean they actually would have spent it to feed some hungry kid."
My thoughts exactly; there's those "fact-finding" trips to the Caribbean to consider.
Stuff like that is just "fun facts." Like Wilbur Mills taking a swim in the fountain. Happens, but is nothing significant in the overall scheme off things. You could give every member of Congress a free trip to Antigua every year, and let him/her bring along his favorite 5 owners (errr, lobbyists) and still not spend nearly as much as is wasted on election propaganda.

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O Really wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
O Really wrote: "But $100mill on a senate race ought to be criminal. Think of all the better value for that money.
Of course, if they hadn't spent it on the campaign doesn't mean they actually would have spent it to feed some hungry kid."
My thoughts exactly; there's those "fact-finding" trips to the Caribbean to consider.
Stuff like that is just "fun facts." Like Wilbur Mills taking a swim in the fountain. Happens, but is nothing significant in the overall scheme off things. You could give every member of Congress a free trip to Antigua every year, and let him/her bring along his favorite 5 owners (errr, lobbyists) and still not spend nearly as much as is wasted on election propaganda.
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Election Day today - tomorrow the 2016 ads debut. :evil:

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O Really wrote:"Election Day today - tomorrow the 2016 ads debut." :evil:
At least it'll be another year before the ads begin to soak up every available advertising spot. Somebody will be stifling their pride tonight..... :---P

As for 2014..... hallelujah!

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I've got a few races I'm really interested in. I'll feel like the Royals, Broncos, and Heat if Tillis gets in and Moffitt stays in, or if Crist doesn't win in FL. Maybe a few more I'll follow, but I've reconciled myself that I can't do anything whatsoever about Iowa idiots electing a certified lunatic or whatever. Gotta keep it in perspective. Republicans will ruin the government if they get a chance, but not much of what they do directly affects me personally. As the poster formerly known as "Vox" used to say, "the dogs bark but the caravan rolls on." But if I were 20-30ish and had most of my life to live in the conditions they're likely to create, I'd be some majorly pissed!

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I don't think the Repubs will ruin the gummit any worse than the Dems would/will. I lost faith in our elected officials years ago; it appears they are more on a career binge rather than to be a servant of the people. It also appears that the Dems are really afraid of losing their standing with the people and are distancing themselves from Obama; as there have probably twice as many bashing ads directed at the Repubs. which shows their desperation.

I too, am at the age where I don't really give a flip; this world has already topped the hill in it's downward spiral; like the song said....
"like a snowball headed for hell"

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It'S always difficult to be running in a party with an unpopular President, but the Dems really screwed up in the strategy they took backing away from Obama. Doing that just let the Republicans set the tone and issues and left their story as the only one around. That way, Republicans could simply say "Obamacare" and get a negative response even from those who are benefiting. Even Hagan let the ads go on about how she "voted with Obama" 96% of the time. Interesting, since I don't recall Obama having cast any votes in Congress since he's been Prez, but past that it's easy to find statistics that show that practically everyone votes with their party most of the time. They tried to hammer ol' what's his face who Meadows beat with "voting with Dems 89% of the time" while not pointing out that that was the lowest percentage of all of Congress. Dude was mostly a Republican anyway. And they don't point out that a relatively few bills really split along party lines - at least until the teapartiers came along and turned everything into a fight.

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O Really wrote: "Interesting, since I don't recall Obama having cast any votes in Congress since he's been Prez,"
I wondered what the clowns in the GOP meant when they whined "voted with Obama"...Obama didn't do no votin'!

Maybe they meant the Dems voted as Dems, huh?

Heathenistic clowns....the whole lot of them.

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Mr.B wrote:
O Really wrote: "Interesting, since I don't recall Obama having cast any votes in Congress since he's been Prez,"
I wondered what the clowns in the GOP meant when they whined "voted with Obama"...Obama didn't do no votin'!

Maybe they meant the Dems voted as Dems, huh?

Heathenistic clowns....the whole lot of them.
You'd be surprised (well maybe not actually) at how many people are incredibly ignorant when it comes to how the US government works and history and so forth. Not even the slightest damn clue!!! My in-laws voted straight Republican this election because they fear the Democrats are going to try to confiscate everyone's guns. For that reason alone they voted straight Republican. Last time they voted straight Democrat because they felt Bush messed things up and was for the rich man and not the middle class. My parents and step-parents don't vote at all and never have and never will and are complaining that everyone's out to get the middle class which they feel they are part of, only they're not. Never mind the fact that they are poor as shit and nowhere near middle class and probably barely pay any taxes to begin with because they're so damn broke.

You've been around longer than I have so you've probably noticed this as well, but so far from what I've gathered having grown up around a bunch of poor-ass ignorant working class Jersey hicks is that they get their news from hearsay passed down through a chain of ten or twenty people and take whatever they're told at face value like it's some kind of mysterious top secret information, and they've been lucky enough to have been let in on the inside scoop.

One of my aunts quite literally thinks Obama is the anti-Christ, and I just saw one of my friends post something on Facebook about chem-trails. Spread the word.
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Ahhh, that explains a lot as to how somebody could oppose Obama and yet think a Rick Scott or Scott Walker is somehow better or somehow relates to whatever Obama does or would like to do do if the Republicans let him. And still, many of these people are the ones who don't support education, who don't have medical insurance and won't get any just because Obama supports wider coverage, who don't pay much in income taxes but support people whose main goal is reducing income taxes of the wealthy, and who never bother to fact-check anything. It's just tribal.

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As of the latest count Obama's pen is out of ink and his phone service has been disconnected. Maybe now you liberals will see the massive failure you supported. Priceless!!! :clap: :clap:
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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Ragin Rebel wrote:As of the latest count Obama's pen is out of ink and his phone service has been disconnected.
If that's what the voices in your head are telling you, seek medical attention.
Ragin Rebel wrote:Maybe now you liberals will see the massive failure you supported. Priceless!!!
The big complaint from Liberals is that Obama has run the country as essentially a moderate Republican, sticking to Republican policy on economic, domestic, foreign, military and other issues. Even the ACA is best described as "15 years of Republican policy until the moment Obama adopted it."
Ragin Rebel wrote:"I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama
From Snopes:
"This is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":"
In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
But don't stop. Web sites that monetize impotent right-wing rage NEED gullible submorons to repost their wingnuttery. They could train chickens to peck Copy & Paste buttons, but some claims are too stupid even for the chickens.

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rstrong wrote:
Ragin Rebel wrote:As of the latest count Obama's pen is out of ink and his phone service has been disconnected.
If that's what the voices in your head are telling you, seek medical attention.[/color]

I have no voices in my head like the Low Information you clowns are!!

Ragin Rebel wrote:Maybe now you liberals will see the massive failure you supported. Priceless!!!


The big complaint from Liberals is that Obama has run the country as essentially a moderate Republican, sticking to Republican policy on economic, domestic, foreign, military and other issues. Even the ACA is best described as "15 years of Republican policy until the moment Obama adopted it."

Bull Shit, Obama is a Narxist, and not even close to being a pimple on a Conservatives ass!

Ragin Rebel wrote:I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama
From Snopes:
"This is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":"


Snopes is a very Liberal and untrustworthy source of information. But believe what you want. Obama has definately sided with Islamist Terrorist.

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
They should go back to where they came from, most want to keep their culture and laws. There's no place in America or American culture for that. When you imigrate, you leave your past behind , and assimulate into OUR culture. 110%!

But don't stop. Web sites that monetize impotent right-wing rage NEED gullible submorons to repost their wingnuttery. They could train chickens to peck Copy & Paste buttons, but some claims are too stupid even for the chickens.
So says the Uber Liberals who depend om Moveon.org or George Soros to think for them.


Bull Shit!!!! You low information morons keep believing that.
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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O Really wrote: But if I were 20-30ish and had most of my life to live in the conditions they're likely to create, I'd be some majorly pissed!
Well I'm a 40ish and have a lot of my life left to live in the conditions that you idiots DID create, and I AM some majorly pissed. Fortunately, it seems that a lot of other Americans felt the same way and that situation has started to be rectified. I love the sound of lib heads exploding in the morning! :---P

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Roland Deschain wrote:
O Really wrote: But if I were 20-30ish and had most of my life to live in the conditions they're likely to create, I'd be some majorly pissed!
Well I'm a 40ish and have a lot of my life left to live in the conditions that you idiots DID create, and I AM some majorly pissed. Fortunately, it seems that a lot of other Americans felt the same way and that situation has started to be rectified. I love the sound of lib heads exploding in the morning! :---P
Exploding? Hardly. We are accustomed to the fact that marginally functional fucktards like yourself are fetishistic with your voting. Not intelligent with it (you don't even vote in your own best interests), but damned ideologically obsessed with voting for the biggest moron you can find, if he/she is using all the right keywords. You and your ilk are reliable votes, because you are ill-educated, uninformed, reactionary and easily led around by anyone who is willing to pander to your assorted delusions and prejudices, which are legion. Coupled with the fact that mid-term elections tend to, sadly, interest liberal and progressive voters less than Presidential elections, such mid-term swings are common.
But stick around and debate it, if you dare. I know that pathetic asshole Solar doesn't like his bitches to hang out in here, and won't let sane, informed people hang out in his blanket fort forum, but you know, surely, by now, that you won't be banned or have comments deleted. You will be hammered with facts and figures and science and shit, though.
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