2014 Elections

[Roland Deschain]

I just love sore LOSERS!!!! LMAO....hey boatfucker.....you mad bro???

[Boatrocker]

<sigh> Still struggling with comprehension, I see. I will assume (foolishly, I know) that your response indicates a willingness to debate, and offer this:

It's mid-term; it happens. This is not really a surprise, especially after the SC sold elections to the highest bidder. Let the teatrash have it for a while. Their idiocy will shine like a beacon- they will not be able to hide it under a bushel.

In fact, I'd prefer Obama just let them have their way- let them run wild for a while and use the veto pen very, very sparingly, if at all- just enough to keep the tards from starting a nuclear world war. Real people have begun to change their minds about ACA and understand that the economy is going alright (if you don't count all those trillions in cash that corporations are sitting on or hiding overseas) and that they are generally better off than they were in 2009. And damned little of that has anything to do with Teapubicans, who have sat on their hands with their thumbs up their asses. They wanted control, let them have it, and let's see what sort of mess they make. We will have plenty of time to point and laugh and they will have to own it, unless we starve in the meantime.

If there's any consolation, it's to be found in a couple of possible areas:

1) So many of these (R)s were fairly moderate before they bowed before the racist, idiot teatrash and their scorched earth policies. Some of these folks are already making moves and comments that can be taken to be, if not conciliatory, at least not so rabid, spit-spraying batshit loony tunes as the ones they made to appease the teagarbage. They've made their point; now they have a chance to show they can govern responsibily and not pull stupidass stunts like filibustering their own fucking bills.

2) TeaOP leadership should look toward 2016 being mindful of 2012 when, even after the initial gains of 2010, Barack Obama was reelected with a comfortable margin. For some sad reason, many lib and progressive voters direct more of their energy toward presidential elections and less toward mid-terms. If the TeaOP swings back to GOP, and remembers that lesson, they will not engage in the sort of crackhead Louie Gohmert/Steve King/Michelle Bachmann bullshit that makes them all look like the same sort of drooling, rabid nutburgers.

In any event, we shall see. And Barack Obama is president for another 2 years- there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

[neoplacebo]

You'd be surprised (well maybe not actually) at how many people are incredibly ignorant when it comes to how the US government works and history and so forth. Not even the slightest damn clue!!! My in-laws voted straight Republican this election because they fear the Democrats are going to try to confiscate everyone's guns. For that reason alone they voted straight Republican. Last time they voted straight Democrat because they felt Bush messed things up and was for the rich man and not the middle class. My parents and step-parents don't vote at all and never have and never will and are complaining that everyone's out to get the middle class which they feel they are part of, only they're not. Never mind the fact that they are poor as shit and nowhere near middle class and probably barely pay any taxes to begin with because they're so damn broke.

You've been around longer than I have so you've probably noticed this as well, but so far from what I've gathered having grown up around a bunch of poor-ass ignorant working class Jersey hicks is that they get their news from hearsay passed down through a chain of ten or twenty people and take whatever they're told at face value like it's some kind of mysterious top secret information, and they've been lucky enough to have been let in on the inside scoop.

One of my aunts quite literally thinks Obama is the anti-Christ, and I just saw one of my friends post something on Facebook about chem-trails. Spread the word.

Yeah, I've always been amazed / amused at how many folks vote against their own interests and don't even realize it. I've come to explain it by assuming these people vote based on what their boss or someone they admire tells them. Or that they hear, and believe, one or more of the pseudo truths or downright lies so prevalent in modern political campaigns. It really is sad that most folks don't take the time to do the research on their own and decide for themselves. And I agree with Boatrocker; if the GOP lets the crazies run the show, they won't last very long at all and they won't be able to hide from their actions.

[Roland Deschain]

<sigh> Still struggling with comprehension, I see. I will assume (foolishly, I know) that your response indicates a willingness to debate, and offer this:

It's mid-term; it happens. This is not really a surprise, especially after the SC sold elections to the highest bidder. Let the teatrash have it for a while. Their idiocy will shine like a beacon- they will not be able to hide it under a bushel.

In fact, I'd prefer Obama just let them have their way- let them run wild for a while and use the veto pen very, very sparingly, if at all- just enough to keep the tards from starting a nuclear world war. Real people have begun to change their minds about ACA and understand that the economy is going alright (if you don't count all those trillions in cash that corporations are sitting on or hiding overseas) and that they are generally better off than they were in 2009. And damned little of that has anything to do with Teapubicans, who have sat on their hands with their thumbs up their asses. They wanted control, let them have it, and let's see what sort of mess they make. We will have plenty of time to point and laugh and they will have to own it, unless we starve in the meantime.

If there's any consolation, it's to be found in a couple of possible areas:

1) So many of these (R)s were fairly moderate before they bowed before the racist, idiot teatrash and their scorched earth policies. Some of these folks are already making moves and comments that can be taken to be, if not conciliatory, at least not so rabid, spit-spraying batshit loony tunes as the ones they made to appease the teagarbage. They've made their point; now they have a chance to show they can govern responsibily and not pull stupidass stunts like filibustering their own fucking bills.

2) TeaOP leadership should look toward 2016 being mindful of 2012 when, even after the initial gains of 2010, Barack Obama was reelected with a comfortable margin. For some sad reason, many lib and progressive voters direct more of their energy toward presidential elections and less toward mid-terms. If the TeaOP swings back to GOP, and remembers that lesson, they will not engage in the sort of crackhead Louie Gohmert/Steve King/Michelle Bachmann bullshit that makes them all look like the same sort of drooling, rabid nutburgers.

In any event, we shall see. And Barack Obama is president for another 2 years- there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

The pitiful part is that you are actually stupid enough to believe that tripe, when the facts of yesterday's results debunk every single word of it. You can keep dreaming though!

[Boatrocker]

The pitiful part is that you are actually stupid enough to believe that tripe, when the facts of yesterday's results debunk every single word of it. You can keep dreaming though!

No, as I thought, it was foolish to expect you to be willing or capable of actually debating an issue, given that there is no historical evidence to support such an expectation. And again, your response is proof you either cannot read or cannot comprehend. More likely, both.

Gloat, if that's what keeps it up for you. I take a longer view. Now, run on back to your dog walker Solar, before he finds out where you've been.

[Boatrocker]

. . . And I agree with Boatrocker; if the GOP lets the crazies run the show, they won't last very long at all and they won't be able to hide from their actions.

They may not have to "let them" run the show. Boehner's leadership has been anything but, and McTurtle couldn't lead a fly to fresh dogshit. I predict cannibalism from the very start of the new session.
" . . . now it's a monster, it will not obey!"

[Boatrocker]

. . . aquawk-squawk . . . blather-blather . . . .

You're enough of an idiot that you just can't help but double down on your own stupidity, and put it in red, to boot. Like all teatards, you have the social awareness and political acumen of a catbox.

[Boatrocker]

But don't stop. Web sites that monetize impotent right-wing rage NEED gullible submorons to repost their wingnuttery. They could train chickens to peck Copy & Paste buttons, but some claims are too stupid even for the chickens.

Who promoted him to submoron?

[Roland Deschain]

No, as I thought, it was foolish to expect you to be willing or capable of actually debating an issue, given that there is no historical evidence to support such an expectation. And again, your response is proof you either cannot read or cannot comprehend. More likely, both.

Gloat, if that's what keeps it up for you. I take a longer view. Now, run on back to your dog walker Solar, before he finds out where you've been.

You've yet to post anything other than partisan talking points, spin of last night's ass kicking you took, and all of it has already been proven false. Post something worthy of debate (if you are able) then we might talk. However, I'm not going to hold my breath....I expect just more sour grapes from a sore LOSER

[O Really]

"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser" - Vince Lombardi
"Show me a good and gracious loser and I'll show you a failure" - Knute Rockne

It would have been nice to keep Hagan since Senators are 6-year jobs, but it wouldn't have mattered since the lunatics took over the rest of the asylum. But I'm still grinning over getting rid of Moffitt and Ramsey

[bannination]

So what did people really vote for that's such victory? What was their platform?

The only things I heard was we must repeal minimum wage. Get rid of insurance.... and cut taxes on the rich, raise them on the rest of us. Oh yeah, and make sure it's legal to totally destroy the environment. Basically turn the U.S. back into a third world country.

I'd be really interested to know if I've missed something?!

EDIT: Say goodbye to open internet as well.

[neoplacebo]

That sounds about right to me. The best part is Moffitt can now focus on creating jobs and fouling his own nest.

[JTA]

Ahhh, that explains a lot as to how somebody could oppose Obama and yet think a Rick Scott or Scott Walker is somehow better or somehow relates to whatever Obama does or would like to do do if the Republicans let him. And still, many of these people are the ones who don't support education, who don't have medical insurance and won't get any just because Obama supports wider coverage, who don't pay much in income taxes but support people whose main goal is reducing income taxes of the wealthy, and who never bother to fact-check anything. It's just tribal.

You're over complicating it. I'm only speaking from my little corner of existence, but this is the pattern I've noticed:

There's no such thing as congress. Those that do know of this thing called congress, only instinctively know that its members are terrible regardless of political persuasion or party. Doesn't matter, no matter what congress = bad. Case closed. The only person that matters is the president. If the president is a Republican, then once his term nears its end they hate all Republicans. If the president is a Democrat, then once his term nears its end they hate all Democrats. Repeat this same pattern for state governor. I think they think presidents and governors are dictators. In a way this is kind of scary because if our republic was dismantled they wouldn't know the difference anyway.

No joke, someone in my family hadn't worked for at least a decade and mooched off of child support complained that taxes were bleeding them dry. I am not making this up I swear. Another member of my family scolded them for not trying to get welfare. I was extremely disgusted to say the least. Disclaimer though these aren't my immediately family members, well not by blood at least thankfully.

[neoplacebo]

I know what you mean; my sister and her husband are tea party types, gun nuts, the whole fear and doom and gloom scene they've bought into. And they're well off in socioeconomic terms. They're also religious fanatics. I'm about the opposite of that.

[Boatrocker]

No, as I thought, it was foolish to expect you to be willing or capable of actually debating an issue, given that there is no historical evidence to support such an expectation. And again, your response is proof you either cannot read or cannot comprehend. More likely, both.

Gloat, if that's what keeps it up for you. I take a longer view. Now, run on back to your dog walker Solar, before he finds out where you've been.

You've yet to post anything other than partisan talking points, spin of last night's ass kicking you took, and all of it has already been proven false. Post something worthy of debate (if you are able) then we might talk. However, I'm not going to hold my breath....I expect just more sour grapes from a sore LOSER

Oh, do show us what has been "proven false." I dare you.

[Mr.B]

I can't decide what brings out the most wing-nuttery and moronic ranting......pre-election backbiting ads, or post-election back-biting, cussin', snarlin', sore losers.

Any hooo.....let the games begin! :violent: :violent: :violent: ........

[bannination]

I can't decide what brings out the most wing-nuttery and moronic ranting......pre-election backbiting ads, or post-election back-biting, cussin', snarlin', sore losers.

Any hooo.....let the games begin! :violent: :violent: :violent: ........

Meh, they'll run off, don't worry. Facts and reality tend to piss em off.

[JTA]

In related news, Alaska, Oregon and DC have legalized marijuana:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/04/politics/ ... index.html

[O Really]

In related news, Alaska, Oregon and DC have legalized marijuana:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/04/politics/ ... index.html

And Florida stepped on its own dick (shock! ) in that 58% voted for medical marijuana but because they stupidly put it up as an amendment instead of simple legislation, it didn't pass because 60% was required. Chief opponent was billionaire casino giant and Republican mega-donar Sheldon Adelson. He spent $5 million to beat the amendment, about 85% percent of the total funding of the opposition. This despite the fact that his own medical research organization, the Dr. Miriam and Sheldon G. Adelson Medical Research Foundation, produced a study in 2013 showing that medical marijuana has the potential to help people with multiple sclerosis.

[JTA]

In related news, Alaska, Oregon and DC have legalized marijuana:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/04/politics/ ... index.html

And Florida stepped on its own dick (shock! ) in that 58% voted for medical marijuana but because they stupidly put it up as an amendment instead of simple legislation, it didn't pass because 60% was required. Chief opponent was billionaire casino giant and Republican mega-donar Sheldon Adelson. He spent $5 million to beat the amendment, about 85% percent of the total funding of the opposition. This despite the fact that his own medical research organization, the Dr. Miriam and Sheldon G. Adelson Medical Research Foundation, produced a study in 2013 showing that medical marijuana has the potential to help people with multiple sclerosis.

In all fairness, legalizing marijuana is a slippery slope. Next thing you know people will be calling for the legalization of gay marijuana.

But seriously, it's kind of crazy a handful of states of legalized it. That's not something I would have expected to see happen. DC's stance seems to be the most interesting - You can't legally sell it, but you can give other people small amounts and grow your own for your own personal enjoyment.

Still, it's technically illegal according to the federal government. I think Trey Gowdy was complaining about the executive selectively enforcing laws, so I wonder if we'll hear more of that. I can see where he's coming from even though I don't have a problem with weed. It seems states legalizing weed and the federal government letting them be is a victory for states rights though.