The homophobic thread :>

[Mr.B]

"Gays and their allies have defeated your poor persecuted ilk."
Wrong. Satan and his forces have won some battles, he/they've not won the war; Christians were fed to lions too...we're still around. God will have the final say who the "winners" are.

".....I'm obsessed with equality, tolerance and compassion, in this case towards gays, along with mocking you losers."
Nothing new there. Sodomites and their supporters have mocked God and His people for ages.

"Riiight, millions of Irish are all less spiritual than you are because they adhere to the biblical mandates for equality, tolerance and compassion that you shun and reject your choice to cherry pick the Bible in order to rationalize your bigotry."
The Bible also says to shun all appearances of evil. If the Sodomites and their supporters will not hear or believe what God said on the subject, then yes, I suppose that I and other Christians who do not support their perverse lifestyles are bigots.

"So many of these discussions are about Mr.B prolonging a losing argument with the English language."
So many of these discussions are about Vrede thinking his new phrase of the month is impressing somebody. Have you really reflected on how stupid you appear each time you post this?

".....your and homerfobe's obsession with gay sex."
Once again, this subject is your baby; you keep it going. It appears though, that homerfobe is your fantasy...and vice versa. You can't post any kind of rebuttal without mentioning him; when he posts, he attacks you because of your obsession with "gays".

[Mr.B]

"Sir Charles is a wise and decent man."
Unless he had spoken negatively about homosexuality.

"Ooooh, the accurate comparison of homerfobe's *obsession with gay sex with your obsession with gay sex really bugs you. Cool."
Nope....doesn't bother me at all....you've whined that song many times; we're used to it.

(*obsession with gay sex -- © 2012 Vrede's Cutesy Quips of The Month, Vol. 6)

[Mr.B]

Vrede note: Once again, Mr.B has been so dishonest, childish and stupid as to alter what I posted when supposedly quoting me. I've PMed his post to him so his words aren't lost if he ever chooses to grow up, be moral and grow a brain.

[rstrong]

Not if they support what God has condemned as abomination....you know....that "cherry-picked part?"

You've stated that the Old Testament has nothing to do with Christianity.

Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality. (You'd think that if it were "an abominination", God/Jesus would have mentioned something.)

Your sole citation to homosexuality being a sin - in your entire religion - is a directive in Paul's first memo to the Corinthians.

And yet you casually dismiss Paul's other directives in the very same letter. You support women speaking in church for example. Something equally, in your words "God has condemned as abomination."

Which means that by YOUR standard, YOU are not a Christian.

By MY standard, those Christians and Christian denominations that allow homosexuality, have simply cherry-picked differently than you have. They've chosen based on Christ's message of tolerance and understanding and kindness, rather than your choices based on your petty hatreds, phobias and bigotries.

If you don't understand this, ask a Christian to explain it to you.

[Mr.B]

Vrede note: Once again, Mr.B has been so dishonest, childish and stupid as to alter what I posted when supposedly quoting me. I've PMed his post to him so his words aren't lost if he ever chooses to grow up, be moral and grow a brain.

Wow! I bet you impressed the hell out of everyone with that shattering revelation!
Once again, Vrede has shown his stupidity in imagining that adding an asterisk is in any way "changing his post". Some day, maybe some day, he'll grow up and stop that infernal whining he's so famous for....sheesh, Vrede, if nothing else, make good use of those Depends where you work.

One more thing...I'm not interested in your whiney little covert PM's...if you've got something to say, say it.

[Mr.B]

Not if they support what God has condemned as abomination....you know....that "cherry-picked part?"

You've stated that the Old Testament has nothing to do with Christianity.
No...I said the OT laws concerned the Jews. Christianity came after Christ's death.

Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality. (You'd think that if it were "an abominination", God/Jesus would have mentioned something.)
So...that makes it 'right'? He said nothing about drunk driving either. God/Jesus did say something about homosexuality; He said it was abomination; He didn't refer specifically to the Jew or Gentile; He meant 'mankind'.

Your sole citation to homosexuality being a sin - in your entire religion - is a directive in Paul's first memo to the Corinthians.
You know exactly where all references to "man lying with man" are in the Bible; why do you foolishly dispute it?

And yet you casually dismiss Paul's other directives in the very same letter. You support women speaking in church for example. Something equally, in your words "God has condemned as abomination."
You're a liar. I never referred to a woman speaking in church as abomination. I said Paul preached that a woman was not to 'preach' in church.

Which means that by YOUR standard, YOU are not a Christian.
Says one who supports immorality, perversion, and filthy living; that same has been slung for years

By MY standard, those Christians and Christian denominations that allow homosexuality, have simply cherry-picked differently than you have. They've chosen based on Christ's message of tolerance and understanding and kindness, rather than your choices based on your petty hatreds, phobias and bigotries.
Sure...YOUR standard. The standard of one who supports immoral and filthy living, perversion, and general hatred for anyone who dares claim clean, Godly living. I've said before, I hate no one, but because Christians won't bow down and embrace immorality, we're accused of ignoring Christ's mandate of 'loving our brother'. We're also told to shun evil living; if he that "hath an ear" will not hear, we're not to have any dealing with them.

Psalms 1:1 - - "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful."

Since I and many Bible-believing churches believe that the Bible is the 'Word of God', I'm afraid that those "Christian denominations that allow homosexuality" are in for a rude awakening. I rather be Saved than to win any popularity contests.

If you don't understand this, ask a Christian to explain it to you.
Satan's lackey spoke his version...fail.

[rstrong]

Not if they support what God has condemned as abomination....you know....that "cherry-picked part?"

You've stated that the Old Testament has nothing to do with Christianity.
No...I said the OT laws concerned the Jews. Christianity came after Christ's death.

Your exact quote, regarding Biblical rules you find inconvenient: "You still hung up on Jewish Law? Don't forget that cotton and polyester thingy..... I thought surely you'd be smart enough to know that Christianity wasn't around back then. "

My point still stands, using YOUR words.

Jesus had nothing to say about homosexuality. (You'd think that if it were "an abominination", God/Jesus would have mentioned something.)
So...that makes it 'right'? He said nothing about drunk driving either.

Driving didn't exist back then. Homosexuality did. If it's the severe "abomination" you claim, you'd expect God/Jesus to say something, given all of his teachings on everything else.

God/Jesus did say something about homosexuality; He said it was abomination; He didn't refer specifically to the Jew or Gentile; He meant 'mankind'.

Citation? (That is, without quoting from the Old Testament with all it's other directives and commandments that you reject.)

Your sole citation to homosexuality being a sin - in your entire religion - is a directive in Paul's first memo to the Corinthians.
You know exactly where all references to "man lying with man" are in the Bible; why do you foolishly dispute it?

I've given you the one reference - in Paul's first memo to the Corinthians - in the one book that you accept as Christian, the New Testament. I don't dispute that it's there. I'm wondering why you embrace that directive, while rejecting other directives in the same part of the same book.

And yet you casually dismiss Paul's other directives in the very same letter. You support women speaking in church for example. Something equally, in your words "God has condemned as abomination."
You're a liar. I never referred to a woman speaking in church as abomination. I said Paul preached that a woman was not to 'preach' in church.

Now you're rewriting both what I wrote AND what Paul wrote.

I never wrote that you "referred to a woman speaking in church as abomination." I'm saying that Paul gave the directive against women speaking church in the same letter that he directive against homosexuality. If the latter is an "abomination", then so is the former.

It's not about "preaching." Paul was very specific about women not speaking in church:

Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. - 1 Corinthians 14:34

(The editor refuses to recognize that I got rid of two /quote's here.)

There are some denominations that obey this rule. You simply cherry-picked differently.

Which means that by YOUR standard, YOU are not a Christian.
Says one who supports immorality, perversion, and filthy living;

You support "immorality, perversion, and filthy living", through your hatred and bigotry. That you also support it by your own rules - practicing what by your own standards is an abomination - merely adds hypocrisy to the list.

If you don't understand this, ask a Christian to explain it to you.

[Mr.B]

Twist much?

[Mr.B]

"Once again, Mr.B's "Twist" turns out to be his lie, and his being stupid enough to think that he can get away with it."

How old are you Vrede? 10? 12? 15? Surely not over 17...? Whatever your age...you need to act it. Homey said we were third graders, I dunno 'bout you, but he's wrong about me.

[rstrong]

Angie's List halts expansion over Indiana law seen targeting gays

Actions have consequences. The bigots are fine with making others suffer.

GenCon, the $50 million-a-year convention gaming convention, runs annually in Indiana. It's planning to move elsewhere. So is the NCAA.

Cities including Seattle and San Francisco are banning city employees from traveling to Indiana on official business at taxpayer expense.

Salesforce.com is “canceling all programs that require our customers/employees to travel to Indiana to face discrimination.” Yelp is doing the same. It looks like Apple will join them.

And then there's:

Devout Christians Protest Indiana’s New Anti-Gay Law.

- Earlier this month, the Presbyterian Church joined the growing number of denominations that recognize same-sex marriage.

- The Disciples of Christ asked Indiana Gov. Mike Pence to veto the bill, threatening to move their 2017 General Assembly to another state. Which would deprive the state of $6 million in revenue.

- A majority of American Jews - somewhere near the 83 percent mark - support marriage equality, and Reform Jews have supported full LGBTQ equality for decades. That puts them around the name numbers as Catholics in that Irish poll.

If Indiana wants to be Iran, others are going to treat them that way.

[Mr.B]

That's a third grade response to having gotten busted lying about the content of my PMs.

That's a lie. Your stupid will never be fixed; if I gave you a penny for your thoughts, I’d get change back.

[bannination]

Being divisive as possible. That's religion in a nutshell.

[neoplacebo]

Those "deeply held beliefs" are like concealed weapons; they're not readily apparent and are only whipped out when needed.

[homerfobe]

Did you hear about the two fags who went in the small bakery near Gary, Indiana and wanted to order a cake to celebrate their upcoming marriage?
One told the owner "We wants to order a wedding cake becauth we're about to be joined in unholy matrimony, his ath wants to marry my fathe, and his dick wants to marry my mouf." The owner told them to get the fuck out, he was a Mormon and didn't believe in that shitty lifestyle. The fags squealed out "We'll thue you"...the owner laughed and said go ahead, we're in Indiana! :thumbsup: Go Indy!

Q: What do the priests do with foreskin after a circumcision?
A: Give it to the fags for chewing gum!

Q: What's the difference between a refrigerator and a faggot?
A: The fridge doesn't fart when you pull the meat out!

Q. Hear about the new sitcom for faggots?
A. "Leave it, it's Beaver."

Q. Did you hear about the queer rabbit?
A. He found a hare up his ass.

Fwiw, I have engaged in sodomy like almost every male and female ever. It's a shame that you haven't, but it's never too late.

I've never had any doubt that you were an assfugger; doesn't mean that everyone should try it. Not every body is a frigging pervert. Was it your dog or your neighbors? Assuming you mean it was a woman, a man that would subject a woman to such a debasing filthy act is about as low as maggot shit.
Mr B. you said several times about your Bible saying to shun all appearances of evil. Why in hell are you hanging around this dump? Don't you know by now that if you play in the shit house you're going to get shit on you? You said a couple of times you regretted what you've said, but you walk right back into the shit house and get shit on again by these faggot loving lowlifes who cherish debauchery and sexual filth. Since I'm your special friend, according to Fagmaster, take my advice and get your ass out of the shithouse before you turn into a turd yourself. This advice is free.

[Mr.B]

That's a third grade response to having gotten busted lying about the content of my PMs.

That's a lie. Your stupid will never be fixed; if I gave you a penny for your thoughts, I’d get change back.

That's a lying, third grade response to having gotten busted lying about the content of my PMs.

You're saying your stupid can be fixed, and I wouldn't get change back? Your overconfidence is overwhelming!

[Mr.B]

"Mr B. you said several times about your Bible saying to shun all appearances of evil... take my advice and get...out... before you turn.... yourself. This advice is free.

Well...uhhh...thanks for the advice. I've often wondered myself why I hang around here, unless it's because I'm a glutton for punishment.

This definitely ain't no place for a Christian; there's nothing to be gained here, but everything to lose.

[O Really]

I've often wondered myself why I hang around here, unless it's because I'm a glutton for punishment.

This definitely ain't no place for a Christian; there's nothing to be gained here, but everything to lose.[/b][/color]

You hang around because you enjoy the interchange. Just like me. Has nothing to do with being a Christian or not, and nobody here is going to keep you out of Heaven. You can even consider yourself Christlike by hanging out with us sinners - see Luke 15-2, and 7-34, "The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!’" (No requirement to be friends with the tax collectors, though. )

[rstrong]

Plus if he hung out on a Christian forum, he might be confronted more over his perversion of Christianity to support his bigotry. Not to mention his rejection of every other page of the New Testament plus the entire Old Testament.

[Mr.B]

As we've been saying:
Apple CEO Tim Cook Compares Indiana Law to Jim Crow Laws in Scathing Op-Ed

Not that the homophobes will ever admit it.

When in reality, they're saying:



These corporate big wigs know that if they don't publicly come out with their feigned "shock and disgust", their company's stock may take a hit. All this hoop-la is about is money. It'll blow over... In the meantime, it does make for good comedy entertainment.

[bannination]

You care about little else here than gay sex and beating children.

Kinda dumb, unless Apple is planning an IN expansion the company's stock won't "take a hit" by being silent on the new law.

Now, I don't care if the corporate "big wigs (sic)" are doing it for ethics, the interest of their employees, the good of society or the "money". Your hateful team has lost, regardless.

It will mostly "blow over" once equality is achieved, you homophobes are a pitiful memory and even your own churches apologize for your behavior like they do about the racists we both remember.

Oh come on Vrede, these are complete different issues. The bible was never used to justify slavery or racism.