The homophobic thread :>

[O Really]

Well it's another "warning" for a "danger" where none exists. Churches have remained free to discriminate for years, to select their own members in accorrdance with their own standards, and to boot members out for whatever they like. A church wedding ceremony has no standing unless the couple has their state-issued license, and once you have the license, you don't need a church to get married. I'm sure there will be some couple somewhere that is a member of a church that doesn't want to marry them, and they'll whine and will get coverage and Cruz will toot his horn about another "attack on Christianity" but the couple will get no help from the state. It is also likely that there will be fewer "florist" altercations than there would have been otherwise, as there will be many wedding production suppliers working really hard for the newly enlarged gay wedding market in all the states where marriage equality has been held up.

[Mr.B]

"Of course with an increasing number of branches of Christianity - and other religions - supporting and performing same-sex marriage, the Supreme Court's decision is FOR religious liberty."

No it's not. Religious liberty is the liberty to refuse to do anything or not perform a service that would go against one's religious beliefs without fear of prosecution from liberal sources.

I already know how you're going to reply to that in regards to race, etc.; we've heard it over and over ad nauseum.

It's interesting how you all bash and trash anyone that remotely mentions religion; yet when you're wallowing around in the subject of homosexuality, you're quick to run and defend a "church" (that you usually ridicule) or religion (that you don't believe in) that embraces or supports what the God they're supposed to be worshipping has deemed to be an abomination unto mankind.

Inasmuch as all of you who rabidly support and embrace the perversions of this sin are atheists; that tells the Christian world what these so-called churches and other "branches of Christianity" really are inside. They've turned their backs on God and they're no more a Bible believing, God-fearing, or Christian church than your local Walmart is.

Remember that "just because one calls himself a Christian......" thingy? Your yanking my chain aside, I know none of you are dummies; you know exactly what that means, and inwardly you agree with me. Think about that.

[Vrede too]

Of course with an increasing number of branches of Christianity - and other religions - supporting and performing same-sex marriage, the Supreme Court's decision is FOR religious liberty.

... Churches have remained free to discriminate for years, to select their own members in accordance with their own standards, and to boot members out for whatever they like....

About 100 "Not Real Christian" pastors and leaders, according to Mr.B:

Evangelicals Respond to SCOTUS Ruling For Equality

Coming soon to a parish near you - Evangelical gay weddings.

[Mr.B]

"About 100 "Not Real Christian" pastors and leaders, according to Mr.B:

That's what I said alright.
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."

------> "Icebox Ministries, Augusta, GA"

[Bungalow Bill]

You beat me to it, Bungalow Bill .... It WAS a CNN story; b.p's mentally handicapped.

I'm sure they were very excited when they first heard about it--an ISIS flag
at a gay parade/march in London. It will take a while for the young lady to
live this one down.

[Bungalow Bill]

Poor choice of words on my part - "still running"

but honestly, fuked up news is the one that will continue to push fake stories in spite of overwhelming evidence - no go zones, $78/hrs auto workers, 47% on entitlements (although that one turned out to be pretty cool when mittens fell for it)
and as all will notice it was bb who fell for the story about gay muslims

Yep, Fux news will pick up the latest nutjob rumor and run with it for
as long as they can get away with it, and that can be a long time. This
is a bit different, but once Fux had a graphic about the Lincoln-Douglas
debates with a picture of old Abe and Frederick Douglass. So the present
isn't the only thing they have trouble getting right.

[Bungalow Bill]

"Today is some of the darkest 24 hours in our nation's history."
- Sen. Ted Cruz on SC decisions on marriage equality and Obamacare

"I couldn't say it more eloquently."
- Sean Hannity

Yep, compared to this, Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were a stroll in the park.
I thought Ben Carson would be the nuttiest of the bunch, but Cruz might
give him some competition. Don't hold back boys.

[billy.pilgrim]

"faggot strut" .... I've never heard a "gay" pride parade called that!

Now for a more sobering thought ... I've often wondered if there's any connection since the drive is on to further America's moral decay:



Another way to attack America, no doubt!

bb even lies about his own posts

[rstrong]

"Of course with an increasing number of branches of Christianity - and other religions - supporting and performing same-sex marriage, the Supreme Court's decision is FOR religious liberty."

No it's not. Religious liberty is the liberty to refuse to do anything or not perform a service that would go against one's religious beliefs without fear of prosecution from liberal sources.

No-one is forcing churches to perform or endorse same-sex marriages, and you know it. As for businesses, refusing to do business with gays is no more "religious freedom" than refusing to do business with blacks, etc. And you know it.

What YOU demand, is a state religion. You want YOUR personal interpretation of Christianity imposed on everyone else, including the other branches of Christianity who disagree. YOU oppose religious freedom.

I already know how you're going to reply to that in regards to race, etc.; we've heard it over and over ad nauseum.

Facts work that way. Repeat the same lies and nonsense, and you get the same answers back.

that tells the Christian world what these so-called churches and other "branches of Christianity" really are inside. They've turned their backs on God and they're no more a Bible believing, God-fearing, or Christian church than your local Walmart is.

That would include the largest Protestant sect in the country, as well as everyone from the Anglicans to the Quakers. Who the hell are you to declare that your hatred and bigotry represents Christianity? Your dismissal of the Old Testament (not to mention your dismissal of much of the New Testament) as not part of Christianity already sets you apart from every major branch of the religion and almost all of the minor ones. You do not speak for them.

[Vrede too]

Mr.B 50 years ago: Religious liberty is the liberty to refuse to sell anything to blacks or to refuse to perform a service for blacks that would go against one's religious beliefs without fear of prosecution from decent society.

Or today, to refuse goods and services to his sect of Christianity, for example. That's the world he wishes to see.

[Mr.B]

What YOU demand, is a state religion. You want YOUR personal interpretation of Christianity imposed on everyone else, including the other branches of Christianity who disagree. YOU oppose religious freedom.
Show me where I've made such demands.

that tells the Christian world what these so-called churches and other "branches of Christianity" really are inside. They've turned their backs on God and they're no more a Bible believing, God-fearing, or Christian church than your local Walmart is.

That would include the largest Protestant sect in the country, as well as everyone from the Anglicans to the Quakers.
If the shoe fits ...

Who the hell are you to declare that your hatred and bigotry represents Christianity?
"Represents" Christianity? Hardly. I've not "declared" anything.

Your dismissal of the Old Testament (not to mention your dismissal of much of the New Testament) as not part of Christianity already sets you apart from every major branch of the religion and almost all of the minor ones. You do not speak for them.
Typical atheist spewing and accusations; where'd you read your script? You're right in one way ... I don't speak for them; it's was said long ago:

Matthew 7:15-18
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

I suppose you could label those words of scripture as my words of "hatred and bigotry". Any church, religion, or denomination that supports sin has turned their backs on God and have made a mockery of His sanctity of marriage. Their support of homosexuality proves the "fruit that they bear".

However, if SSM is legal and recognized in the US, then those couples should be afforded the same rights as hetero couples; but man's laws are not God's laws. The great sin is in what Vrede says anyone who even mentions it is obsessed with it ... and that's sex between two of the same gender. It's "abomination".

You've pointed out before that "love thy neighbor, brother etc." ... that scripture is not a blanket that covers all; there's also that "shun all appearances of evil" verse .... sin is evil to be shunned.

You can curse, spit, spew and spout off about churches, religions, denominations, etc. all you like; ain't gonna change a thing. Those words were in print before the largest part of your essence was a dribble running down your momma's leg; and nothing you say, do, think, or belittle is going to change them. Deal with it; whether you believe them or not is your problem; you only want to believe what's convenient for you.

Obviously rstrong failed to see my post about his hate for churches, religion, etc., but is quick to defend them when it's convenient for him to defend the sin of homosexuality. How sad .... and pathetic.

[Boatrocker]

Of course with an increasing number of branches of Christianity - and other religions - supporting and performing same-sex marriage, the Supreme Court's decision is FOR religious liberty.

... Churches have remained free to discriminate for years, to select their own members in accordance with their own standards, and to boot members out for whatever they like....

About 100 "Not Real Christian" pastors and leaders, according to Mr.B:

Evangelicals Respond to SCOTUS Ruling For Equality

Coming soon to a parish near you - Evangelical gay weddings.

"As Evangelical pastors and leaders, we believe that the gospel of Jesus Christ is a message of good news for all people."

Still can't find where Jesus mentioned homosexuality, one way or another.

[O Really]

Maybe not homosexuality, but in Matthew 19:24 he is quoted as saying rich men weren't getting in, so that pretty much eliminates a lot of Republicans. On the other hand, the quote seems to require giving up houses, etc., and does not necessarily apply to one who starts out poor. So that may get rid of a lot of third-world state people from the trailer parks who vote against their own interests. And then Jesus is quoted as to have already given up the top management positions, at least insofar as Israel goes. Looks like the population of Heaven is getting pared down to Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, and the rest who give away a lot of stuff for charitable causes.

[Mr.B]

"It is Our Constitutional Right to Proclaim the Truth

When a man of God proclaims the truth and tries to reach people for Christ, he is simply exercising his Constitutional Bill of Rights, as well as his God-given call. Furthermore, EVERY believer is commanded to speak out against the wickedness of our day! It's not just the preacher's job to witness to the lost and speak out against wrong doing... this is another lie of the Devil which many Christians have fallen for... it is ALL of our jobs. So why aren't America's men and women of God doing it? Wake up!!!

To accuse a zealous Christian of "forcing his or her beliefs" unto other people is simply the Devil's lie. We have every right to speak out with contempt against contemptible things. I do NOT endorse deliberately being unkind to anyone, but unrepentant sinners will nonetheless be offended when we preach out against wickedness. We should attack the sin, never the sinner. Though the wicked will claim the two are inseparable, there is indeed a great difference. God HATES sin, but not people. No one hates sin any more than God, yet no one loves sinners as much as God. We must follow Christ's example by trying to do the same."

[Mr.B]

"Still can't find where Jesus mentioned homosexuality, one way or another."

How would you know for sure ... you don't GAF what the Bible says anyway ... remember?

Also, does that fact lessen the nature of the sin; or make it OK?

[Mr.B]

"Maybe not homosexuality, but in Matthew 19:24 he is quoted as saying rich men weren't getting in, so that pretty much eliminates a lot of Republicans. On the other hand, the quote seems to require giving up houses, etc., and does not necessarily apply to one who starts out poor. So that may get rid of a lot of third-world state people from the trailer parks who vote against their own interests. And then Jesus is quoted as to have already given up the top management positions, at least insofar as Israel goes. Looks like the population of Heaven is getting pared down to Bill and Melinda Gates, Warren Buffet, and the rest who give away a lot of stuff for charitable causes."

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle,
than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

It's not a sin to be rich; to be rich and devote your life to your riches is the sin. It's hoarding to yourself what God has blessed you with.

[Boatrocker]

"Still can't find where Jesus mentioned homosexuality, one way or another."

How would you know for sure ... you don't GAF what the Bible says anyway ... remember?

Also, does that fact lessen the nature of the sin; or make it OK?

As far as I'm concerned. The Big 10 didn't mention it, either. It's only an issue for the easily-influenced who believe that every single word of the bible is holy writ, straight from God, who doesn't seem to be literate in any language, in addition to being unwilling or unable to simply TALK TO US. He is omniscient and omnipotent, and all.

[Mr.B]

" ... who doesn't seem to be literate in any language, in addition to being unwilling or unable to simply TALK TO US."

Did you just describe yourself ... ?

[Mr.B]

"As far as I'm concerned. The Big 10 didn't mention it, either."

Again, does that fact lessen the nature of the sin; or make it OK?
The "Big 10" doesn't address pedophilia either, does that make it OK?
The "Big 10" doesn't address bestiality either, does that make it OK?
The "Big 10" doesn't address a man leaving his wife and a house full of kids for another woman; does that make it OK?

[rstrong]

The Big 10 didn't mention it, either.

The "Big 10" is better described as the "First 10." The commandments dictated to Moses didn't stop at 10.

But after #10 they start getting awkward for modern Christians. The rules for beating your slaves. When to kill your children for cursing at you. The rules for selling your daughter into slavery. Etc.

Which is why Mr.B disavows the entire Old Testament as not part of Christianity, except to quote cherry-picked bits when convenient. And why he ignores Jesus's complete lack of criticism for homosexuality, instead latching on to a statement from Paul in his memo to the Corinthians. While disagreeing with and disavowing much of the rest of what Paul wrote in the same memo.

Mr.B is to Christianity what Donald Trump is to Presidential politics.