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Why not proceed with the show and donate the proceeds to an LGBT charity? Nah, let's penalize our fans. .
I'd like to see somebody start a fund for legal expenses to fight HB2 and other discriminatory laws, and the entertainers who want to protest can donate proceedings there. If you had Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Cirque du Soleil, etc. funding it, it would grow to a pretty big war chest quickly.

However, there is something to be said for making life hard on the innocent as a means of getting them personally involved to hunt the heads of the guilty. If I were an entertainer, I might put on a free concert for anybody showing a Democratic voter registration and willing to wear a rainbow t-shirt with "Repeal HB2" on it.

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Why not proceed with the show and donate the proceeds to an LGBT charity? Nah, let's penalize our fans. .
I'd like to see somebody start a fund for legal expenses to fight HB2 and other discriminatory laws, and the entertainers who want to protest can donate proceedings there. If you had Springsteen, Pearl Jam, Cirque du Soleil, etc. funding it, it would grow to a pretty big war chest quickly.

However, there is something to be said for making life hard on the innocent as a means of getting them personally involved to hunt the heads of the guilty. If I were an entertainer, I might put on a free concert for anybody showing a Democratic voter registration and willing to wear a rainbow t-shirt with "Repeal HB2" on it.
A few entertainers are donating all proceeds to LGBT causes rather than cancelling shows. This, in my opinion, is much better. If you disagree with the law, fine. Don't book any future shows in the state instead of penalizing those who took time off of work and made arrangements to see your shit past its prime wannabe grunge band, just so you can jump on the bandwagon and jerk your already inflated rockstar ego.
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O Really wrote:...A transgendered girl in Maine won her "restroom" case in the Maine Supreme Court, based on the Maine Human Rights Act. The Maine HRA includes "sexual orientation" but not transgender, yet the Supreme Court found the school system to have discriminated in not allowing her to use the restroom matching her identity. I think Federal courts might see it the same way.
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JTA wrote:... Why not proceed with the show and donate the proceeds to an LGBT charity? Nah, let's penalize our fans.... This, in my opinion, is much better....
You're not LGBTQ. A guess is because they deem that a boycott is more effective in achieving change and that almost all of their fans will understand. I sure do. Donating the proceeds to an LGBT charity is nice, but it pressures no one. That's why no LGBT charity will agree with you.
O Really wrote:... I'd like to see somebody start a fund for legal expenses to fight HB2 and other discriminatory laws, and the entertainers who want to protest can donate proceedings there....
There's no shortage of money for that now. Hence the 4 years or so of court victories.

From Human Rights Campaign:
Join TurnOUT! NC for a Repeal HB 2: Town Hall Series

Repeal HB 2: Town Hall meetings will be held in Charlotte, Raleigh, Greensboro, Greenville, Asheville, and other surrounding cities. The town halls are intended to be educational and informative; to discuss the implications of HB 2 for North Carolinians, allow community members to share stories, and learn how you can help repeal HB 2. This hateful bill has sweeping effects for North Carolinians and we cannot stand by quietly. Don’t miss this chance to make your voice heard -- join us in your city!

Asheville - Thurs. April 21 - 5:30pm - 7:30pm; Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Asheville 1 Edwin Pl. Asheville, NC 28801 ...
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Re: Federal Court Sides With Transgender Teen In Virginia Bathroom Case
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... hroom-case

NC is in the Fourth Circuit.

This is your very apt legacy - Fear, hatred, bigotry, Constitution violating, way dumb, bad for business, a "fiscal con" that costs us tens of millions of dollars, ineffective, bad for NC.

Good riddance.

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Leaving aside debates over violence or property destruction, my experience is that those saying, "You should do your activism this way," or "You should be active on this, instead," are almost never activists on anything. My apologies if this doesn't apply here.
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Vrede too wrote:Leaving aside debates over violence or property destruction, my experience is that those saying, "You should do your activism this way," or "You should be active on this, instead," are almost never activists on anything. My apologies if this doesn't apply here.
No, I'm not an activist at all, so you're 100% correct in that regard. If there were a cause worthy of my precious dwindling time, then that may change. As of now I've yet to find one.
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No one has to be, there are lots of ways to do good.
JTA wrote:I'm pirating pearl jams entire discography tonight in protest of them jumping on the feel good bandwagon. Not for my own enjoyment, but for others.

Why not proceed with the show and donate the proceeds to an LGBT charity? Nah, let's penalize our fans. If anyone wants some pearl jam albums let me know. Don't bother buying them and supporting rich self absorbed douche bags, because I got your back.
Whatever differing opinions on tactics are, Pearl Jam is trying to do the right thing, it's endorsed by the victims of the discrimination and it costs them the gate bucks. Their fans know that Pearl Jam has always been activist - Campaigning and activism - and few groups have ever shown more solidarity with their fans - Ticketmaster, Legacy.

The NC GOP are the bad guys here, not Pearl Jam.
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Re: Federal Court Sides With Transgender Teen In Virginia Bathroom Case
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Saw Gov. Pat McCrory whining on TV that the federal government is imposing itself on NC. Way ironic given that the whole mess is because NC government imposed itself on Charlotte and every other city.
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New poll shows Cooper ahead of the margin of error over McCrory, with McCrory's favorables down, unapprovals up. :clap: :lol:

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Shill for Duke, corporate welfare, environment, shady dealings, education, illegal gerrymandering, coal ash, now this - it's embarrassing that McCrory even has a chance.
Appeals court rules for transgender teen in Virginia bathroom case

... Tobias said he would expect challengers of HB2 to take the Grimm ruling to a North Carolina federal judge and argue that it answers the core legal question.

By overturning a lower court decision in the Virginia case, the appellate panel found that Title IX, the federal law that prohibits gender discrimination and harassment in schools, protects the rights of students to use the bathroom that corresponds with their gender identity. Critics say North Carolina’s law could place in jeopardy about $4 billion in federal funds for education, housing and transportation if the state is found in violation of Title IX....

“This ruling not only gives appropriate deference to the Department of Education’s interpretation of Title IX as allowing transgender students to use school restrooms consistent with their gender identity, it also is binding on the state of North Carolina. We therefore expect public schools, including those in North Carolina, to immediately comply, ensuring transgender students full protections under the law, which includes full access to the appropriate facilities.”

... McCrory had filed a so-called “friend of the court” brief in support of the bathroom ban in Virginia ...

The governor said he disagreed with the ruling but would respect it.
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AG Cooper says he won't defend HB2, calls law 'a national embarrassment'



The unconstitutional law was passed and signed on March 23. Less than a month for such a complete turnaround is a little shocking.
Latest poll: Cooper gains lead over McCrory in NC governor’s race

... While previous surveys have shown the candidates neck-and-neck within a margin of error, the new Elon University Poll gives Cooper a 48-42 percent lead. The margin of error in this survey was just under 4 percent. Cooper had a 3-point advantage in an average of the three most recent polls.

According to the Elon poll, McCrory’s job approval rating was 37 percent, compared to 49 percent who said they disapprove of the job he is doing. Close to 14 percent said they didn’t know or were unsure.

Nearly 43 percent of registered voters said they approved of the job Cooper is doing, while 27 percent disapprove, and 30 percent said they didn’t know or were unsure.

Elon pollsters say that is McCrory’s lowest approval rating since first polled two years ago....

On the controversial LGBT ordinance known as HB2, the survey found 49 percent of respondents said the state should prohibit cities from passing ordinances like Charlotte did, allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of the sex the identify with. Thirty-nine percent said cities should be allowed to enact policies like that, and 11 percent said they don’t know.

Nearly two-thirds of those who said they were born-again Christians support state prohibitions on “bathroom bill” ordinances; 49 percent of Catholics feel that way, and 46 percent identified as “other Christians” do also. Sixty-three percent of those who said they were not religious think cities should be able to enact their own ordinances.

U.S. Sen. Richard Burr leads Democratic challenger Deborah Ross 37-33 percent. According to Keith Fernandez, the poll’s director, both candidates are strongly supported by their party’s base, but independents are lining up with Burr by a 34-27 percent margin; 15 percent said they don’t know who they will support....

Even though former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton won the Democratic primary in North Carolina in March, it’s Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders who would defeat Donald Trump or Ted Cruz in a hypothetical contest in this state.

The poll found Sanders would defeat Trump 51-38, and Cruz by 49-39 percent. Clinton would also beat Trump, 45-39 percent, but would lose to Cruz 44-41 percent.
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Vrede too wrote:No one has to be, there are lots of ways to do good.
JTA wrote:I'm pirating pearl jams entire discography tonight in protest of them jumping on the feel good bandwagon. Not for my own enjoyment, but for others.

Why not proceed with the show and donate the proceeds to an LGBT charity? Nah, let's penalize our fans. If anyone wants some pearl jam albums let me know. Don't bother buying them and supporting rich self absorbed douche bags, because I got your back.
Whatever differing opinions on tactics are, Pearl Jam is trying to do the right thing, it's endorsed by the victims of the discrimination and it costs them the gate bucks. Their fans know that Pearl Jam has always been activist - Campaigning and activism - and few groups have ever shown more solidarity with their fans - Ticketmaster, Legacy.

The NC GOP are the bad guys here, not Pearl Jam.
Yeah true. You're probably right. Fuck it yo let's listen to some Pearl Jam
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Tell the N.C. Chamber of Commerce: Stand Against Discrimination

To: N.C. Chamber of Commerce CEO S. Lewis Ebert

Join other business leaders and call for a full repeal of HB2.
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I wrote Target Friday saying something like, "Ignore the haters, I'm more likely to shop at Target now."
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Thank you for your support.

At the heart of our company are core values which include Target’s longstanding commitment to create an environment where our team members and guests feel welcome, valued and respected.

Target supports inclusivity and diversity in every aspect of our business and has a long history of supporting the LGBT community through giving, volunteerism and event sponsorship and participation. This change is part of a continuous evaluation of where we are as a company to ensure we are taking steps that balance doing what is right for our business, guests, and for our team.

Thanks for writing.

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(Even) Fox News's Chris Wallace calls out North Carolina's anti-LGBTQ law

Fox News anchor Chris Wallace did not mince words when discussing North Carolina's controversial anti-LGBTQ law on his show Sunday.

"This seems to be a solution in search of a problem," Wallace said ...

But Wallace cited a PolitiFact report that concluded this type of attack has reportedly never happened: "We haven't found any instances of criminals convicted of using transgender protections as cover in the United States. Neither have any left-wing groups or right-wing groups." ...
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Jordan on HB2: Hornets 'opposed to discrimination in any form'

One week after NBA Commissioner Adam Silver clarified the league's willingness to move the 2017 All-Star Game out of Charlotte if North Carolina legislators do not overturn a controversial new state law that reverses a Charlotte ordinance that had expanded rights and protections for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people, Charlotte Hornets owner Michael Jordan said Tuesday that his franchise remains "opposed to discrimination in any form." ...
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PayPal is not going to bite the hand that feeds them and earns them big profits. Why criticize Malaysia, when you can get workers for cents per hour instead of dollars; or some radical Islamic group might blow you away? PayPal doesn't give a rat's ass about something called HB2; it's only to create a fashionable statement so as not to hurt their earnings in the USA. Same pandering and bullying as other companies are doing. Gimme a break.
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Undoubtedly PayPal is looking out for its own business interests. But doesn't it give you pause to think that selfishly looking out for their own business interests led them to being against, rather than supporting, HB2? Republicans in the NC legislature are without doubt once again on the losing side of history.

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If one can say (you can't) that it has nothing to do with business morality and that it's just about the bottom line, that's giving the tolerant team even more power than it already has. Cool.
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