Well, maybe fried rice.
Is Rice Being Thrown Under The Bus?
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The reactors would power the tar sands extraction. The process is energy-intensive, and right now they use mostly natural gas to power it. That's what makes it greenhouse gas-heavy.Vrede wrote:Apples and oranges. Nuke power production and tar sands extraction exports meet different demands in different locales.rstrong wrote:There's been a lot talk about building small nuclear reactors in northern Alberta. They were dismissed as too expensive in the mid-2000s, but higher oil prices have changed that.Vrede wrote:Has Canada really thought through the consequences of greenhouse gas-heavy tar sands extraction?
Take away the greenhouse gas from the extraction process, and you have oil that's "greener" than that which is shipped half-way around the planet from the middle-east, Africa or South America.
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The Canadian government just approved two foreign takeovers of major oil companies: A $15.1-billion bid for Nexen Inc. by China's state oil company and a $5.2-billion bid by Malaysia's Petronas, for Progress Energy.
I'm sure THEY'LL take better care of the environment in the tar sands.
(Nexen also has operations in the Gulf of Mexico.)
I'm sure THEY'LL take better care of the environment in the tar sands.
(Nexen also has operations in the Gulf of Mexico.)
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I ordered some vacuum tubes from Canada that are due to be delivered tomorrow; they were made in Russia, though. The tubes in my amp now are Chinese. I also ordered a t shirt that says "Rebel against the solid state" and it has a graphic of tubes as rockets taking off into the sky. What happened to the originator of this topic? Is it no longer a fact? Was it ever? Could the ofiginator recognize one other than a traffic light? We'll wait.....
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Ok, thanks. I was worried it would be a "we'll wait" situation and then an "opps" but instead of a "we'll wait" it went straight to an "opps." I see it clearly now.
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I'm glad we don't have to contest these guys in a track meet. Soupy, Butt Ugly, and Colonel Sanders are Olympic caliber sprinters and distance runners.Vrede wrote: - Supsalemgr ran away without so much as an, "Opps," as he always does.
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What the hell is this? I made an original post asking a question which was and is still relevant as we do not know what Ms. Rice's future holds.
The loons had a slow day yesterday and bring it back up with their normal disparaging comments. You folks really need to get a life.
The loons had a slow day yesterday and bring it back up with their normal disparaging comments. You folks really need to get a life.
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You know how funny they are if you stay away or have a life they will go on and just make stuff up and answer for ya. Vred is the new forum head mind reader and when that don't work they make stuff up like good little libs then they repeat it several times and it becomes true in their little minds.Supsalemgr wrote:What the hell is this? I made an original post asking a question which was and is still relevant as we do not know what Ms. Rice's future holds.
The loons had a slow day yesterday and bring it back up with their normal disparaging comments. You folks really need to get a life.
Actually they just like to pretend no one connected to Obama could ever do anything wrong is all.
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No, your question would have been and still be relevant if you had asked what were Rice's chances of being nominated for State and/or being confirmed.Supsalemgr wrote:What the hell is this? I made an original post asking a question which was and is still relevant as we do not know what Ms. Rice's future holds.
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Your question was more like, "what evil sneakiness is Obama up to now, and can I accuse him of shafting one of his own?"
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O Really is entitled to twist the meaning of my question any way he wishes. Unfortunately, it is not aligned with my thinknig when I posed the question.
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To quote the POTUS, "let me be clear about this". I am not squirming or backtracking. I posed a question which is relevant. Only time will tell.
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You might want to check the tires on the bus; if rice has actually been thrown under the bus, some "colonels" are likely stuck to the rubber surface of the tires or some may even be wedged into the tire treads at a perpendicular angle to the tread itself because the individual "colonels" are too narrow to become stuck in the treads unless the "colonel" is oriented 90 degrees to the linear aspect of the tire tread. Hope this helps. I suppose the bottom line is; if you want to know if rice has been thrown under the bus, you'll just have to get down under there and look.....we'll wait.
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We do not know yet do we? As I posted, time will tell. In the meantime, I fairly amazed at all the attention the libs are paying to this thread. Could it be they are so enamored with Obama they do not think he is capable of throwing Rice under the bus? Or, could it be they know it is a real possibility?
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I can only speak for myself, but my attention toward you is merely derision in your stupid assertion that first there was some sort of sinister and ill defined conspiracy and coverup regarding the attack in Benghazi and when that became shown to be lunacy you come out with this other drivel. I've never been enamored of a politician, but I bet you have been.Supsalemgr wrote:We do not know yet do we? As I posted, time will tell. In the meantime, I fairly amazed at all the attention the libs are paying to this thread. Could it be they are so enamored with Obama they do not think he is capable of throwing Rice under the bus? Or, could it be they know it is a real possibility?
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So what do you expect me to say, Super-S? I already said that Obama may or may not nominate Rice - I don't know - but that if he decides not to nominate here the decision is not some elaborate scheme. I even gave my guess as to dialogue. Unless you've got something else to add with regard to nefariousness - which so far has come only from your own speculation - then I've got nothing else to address.
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Why are the libs so carried away with this thread? I just posed the question as to whether these two "green" groups might possibly be in cahoots with Obama if he is trying find a reason not to appoint her as the heir to Hillary's position. Is it possible for any of the libs to comment on that thought rather than diverting away from the question?
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OK. No, they're not. Your turn.Supsalemgr wrote:Why are the libs so carried away with this thread? I just posed the question as to whether these two "green" groups might possibly be in cahoots with Obama if he is trying find a reason not to appoint her as the heir to Hillary's position.
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So answer this, Super-S - assuming Obama wants to avoid appointing Rice, why does he need an elaborate excuse? Why involve other large organizations that aren't exactly under his control nor necessarily supportive of his environmental efforts?
Isn't it more likely that these organizations wanted to take advantage of a high-profile person holding stock and call attention to themselves? My guess is they hadn't noticed Rice and her holdings until the possibility of an appointment to State came up. Her holding the stock as Ambassador to the UN wouldn't have created the same potential conflict of interest as State.
Same answer - no, no conspiracy. No scheme.
Isn't it more likely that these organizations wanted to take advantage of a high-profile person holding stock and call attention to themselves? My guess is they hadn't noticed Rice and her holdings until the possibility of an appointment to State came up. Her holding the stock as Ambassador to the UN wouldn't have created the same potential conflict of interest as State.
Same answer - no, no conspiracy. No scheme.
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So, are you guys thinking he will not appoint her because of the possible conflict of interest?
Or maybe Obama has the same feelings as Mr. Stevens has?
Susan Rice
Published: Monday, December 10, 2012 at 4:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, December 7, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
To the editor: President Lincoln is quoted as saying, “If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time.”
Given the continuing passive posture of President Barack Obama, I feel compelled to ask if we (the people) could borrow the presidency since it’s obvious that the president doesn’t want to use the office to represent the United States on the world scene.
Nearly three months have passed without the truth emerging about the U.S. government’s simply silly idea to send Ambassador Susan Rice out on five Sunday news shows on Sept. 16, 2012. The question is still being asked: Why send Ambassador Rice, who had nothing to do with Benghazi? Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely declined to be offered up.
We now know about Ambassador Rice’s poor record as assistant secretary of state for African affairs. Quite simply, she “backed the wrong horses” when she supported Isaias Afewerki (Eritrea), Meles Zenawi (Ethiopia), Yoweri Museveni (Uganda) and Paul Kagame (Rwanda). Simply put, an estimated 100,000 died in the war that Ms. Rice failed to stop.
And still we await the leadership (from any direction) from our newly re-elected president.
Bob Stevens

Or maybe Obama has the same feelings as Mr. Stevens has?
Susan Rice
Published: Monday, December 10, 2012 at 4:30 a.m.
Last Modified: Friday, December 7, 2012 at 6:36 p.m.
To the editor: President Lincoln is quoted as saying, “If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time.”
Given the continuing passive posture of President Barack Obama, I feel compelled to ask if we (the people) could borrow the presidency since it’s obvious that the president doesn’t want to use the office to represent the United States on the world scene.
Nearly three months have passed without the truth emerging about the U.S. government’s simply silly idea to send Ambassador Susan Rice out on five Sunday news shows on Sept. 16, 2012. The question is still being asked: Why send Ambassador Rice, who had nothing to do with Benghazi? Secretary of State Hillary Clinton wisely declined to be offered up.
We now know about Ambassador Rice’s poor record as assistant secretary of state for African affairs. Quite simply, she “backed the wrong horses” when she supported Isaias Afewerki (Eritrea), Meles Zenawi (Ethiopia), Yoweri Museveni (Uganda) and Paul Kagame (Rwanda). Simply put, an estimated 100,000 died in the war that Ms. Rice failed to stop.
And still we await the leadership (from any direction) from our newly re-elected president.
Bob Stevens
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No, she could end any potential conflict by divesting the holdings, although it could be argued that she might still be biased. Anyway, I think if he decides not to nominate her (and as of today he has not promised the job), it will be simply because it would be more of a fight to get her confirmed than she's worth. She's not popular at the UN, nor with a lot of Dems, she's shrill and, ummm..."direct," and her foreign specialities aren't where the worst of the messes are. Also, and not a really small also, she was one of the first to bail from Hillary's campaign to Obama's. That might have gotten her the UN job, but it won't help get Hillary's support to take over her job.Supsalemgr wrote:So, are you guys thinking he will not appoint her because of the possible conflict of interest?