The homophobic thread :>

[GoCubsGo]

Animals that practice homosexuality

Wikipedia: Homosexual behavior in animals

So that puts homosexuals on the same level as wild animals. Interesting ..... And I was taught that mankind was supposed to be of a higher level of intelligence. Imagine that.

Is it possible that it didn't have anything to do with "intellect"?

[rstrong]

Animals that practice homosexuality

Wikipedia: Homosexual behavior in animals

So that puts homosexuals on the same level as wild animals. Interesting ..... And I was taught that mankind was supposed to be of a higher level of intelligence. Imagine that.

It puts HUMANS on the same level as wild animals. But nice (bigoted, hateful and goddamned stupid, just like we expect from you) try.

[Mr.B]

Animals that practice homosexuality

Wikipedia: Homosexual behavior in animals

So that puts homosexuals on the same level as wild animals. Interesting ..... And I was taught that mankind was supposed to be of a higher level of intelligence. Imagine that.

Is it possible that it didn't have anything to do with "intellect"?

Most definitely ... especially where humans are concerned.

Maybe I should have said man is supposed to have the common sense to discern right from wrong.

[Mr.B]

Animals that practice homosexuality

Wikipedia: Homosexual behavior in animals

So that puts homosexuals on the same level as wild animals. Interesting ..... And I was taught that mankind was supposed to be of a higher level of intelligence. Imagine that.

It puts HUMANS on the same level as wild animals. But nice (bigoted, hateful and goddamned stupid, just like we expect from you) try.

Your language is your badge; to be expected of a heathen. I'm sure you wear it proudly, and your kids are so proud of their Daddy and his trashy mouth. My remark must've really pissed you off ... what's your homo connection that's gotten you so distressed?

[GoCubsGo]

Animals that practice homosexuality

Wikipedia: Homosexual behavior in animals

So that puts homosexuals on the same level as wild animals. Interesting ..... And I was taught that mankind was supposed to be of a higher level of intelligence. Imagine that.

Is it possible that it didn't have anything to do with "intellect"?

Most definitely ... especially where humans are concerned.

Maybe I should have said man is supposed to have the common sense to discern right from wrong.

With over six million gay people in this country and over one hundred and sixty million Americans approving of gay marriage (not to mention SCOTUS), I don't think your version of common sense or right and wrong is trending your way.

That toothpaste is out of the tube, you can practice or learn tolerance, since its obvious nothing will change your view or you can get left behind because it's not going back.

[rstrong]

Your language is your badge;

....says the one who has so far today labelled five percent of the population "sinners", "despicable", "un-natural" "immoral", "an abomination", compared them to animals, and linked them to Satan and other Biblical legends of evil.

But then of course, hypocrisy seems to be a central rite of your personal religion.

to be expected of a heathen.

I'm not religious.

Heathen implies belief in the old Germanic gods like Wōden, Orin and the rest. Much of which was imported into Christianity as Santa, hanging mistletoe, hanging stocking by the fireplace and other Christmas beliefs, the Easter bunny and Easter eggs and other spring fertility rites, etc. It's your bailiwick, not mine.

My remark must've really pissed you off ... what's your homo connection that's gotten you so distressed?

It's about civil rights.

A few years back at my old house, there was a same-sex female couple next door and a same-sex male couple across the back lane. They were really good people, with the moral high ground over you in every way. I don't know any homosexual people today, at least that I know of.

But that makes no difference. As a member of civilized society I have a duty to counter hate-spreading bigots like you, whether you're trying to deny civil rights to LGBT folks, visible minorities, women, other religions, or the great many Christians you consider immoral, satanic and "as the church of Pergamos".... because they haven't cherry-picked the Bible in precisely the same way that you have.

[Vrede too]

N. Carolina gay-marriage law may mean long courthouse waits

Leaving aside differences over "morality", the NC Leg has just created the conditions where a single gay couple wanting to marry will delay marriages for many, many straight couples. NC Republicans aren't very smart.

[O Really]

The article paints a bleak "what if" picture, but I don't think the stupid law is going to make much difference IRL. Here's why: (1)it's going down in court; (2) I don't think there would be that many people to refuse anyway; (3) it's not like we drive horse and buggies - there's no requirement you have to get a license in the county you live. You don't even have to be an NC resident. Drive over to the next one.

[Mr.B]

"With over six million gay people in this country and over one hundred and sixty million Americans approving of gay marriage (not to mention SCOTUS), I don't think your version of common sense or right and wrong is trending your way."
Approving of (or accepting) homosexuality as a way of life is vastly different from believing it is a moral way of living. I believe it is immoral and disgusting, I don't approve of it, won't accept it; but it's happening and there's nothing I can do about it. However, you'll not find me on top of a flag pole somewhere screaming about it; it's not my place to judge. I view homosexuals as others with different ways of life .... I've repeatedly said that over and over in these threads. Do I believe homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals if they "marry" .. ? Yes. Do I believe homosexual marriage is immoral and go against the laws of nature ..? Yes.


"That toothpaste is out of the tube, you can practice or learn tolerance, since its obvious nothing will change your view or you can get left behind because it's not going back."
GCG, not once have I indicated "intolerance" towards homosexuals as individuals; my religious and common sense beliefs lead me to believe homosexuality is wrong; not only in nature, but in the eyes of the Creator, and that "view" will not change. I only find the practice of homosexuality as "intolerable", not the people who practice it; but the SCOTUS has given them the right to their way of life alongside "normal" people.

Now ... "left behind" from what? Personally, I don't believe I'm the one that's going to be "left behind".

[Mr.B]

"Your language is your badge;"

"....says the one who has so far today labelled (sic) five percent of the population "sinners", "despicable", "un-natural" "immoral", "an abomination", compared them to animals, and linked them to Satan and other Biblical legends of evil."

"But then of course, hypocrisy seems to be a central rite of your personal religion."

"As a member of civilized society I have a duty to counter hate-spreading bigots like you, whether you're trying to deny civil rights to LGBT folks, visible minorities, women, other religions, or the great many Christians you consider immoral, satanic and "as the church of Pergamos".... because they haven't cherry-picked the Bible in precisely the same way that you have."


Comprehend much? Not THE population as individuals, but the way of life OF the population. Their way of life is what I "compared to animals, and linked them to Satan and other Biblical legends of evil." (According to the Gospel of Vrede, that's being "obsessed with gay sex")

You whine about Christians wanting to enforce our beliefs and laws on others; OTOH, you and other atheisti, radical, civil rights activists want Christians to turn their backs on what we believe in, and openly accept and embrace what we believe is a sin in the eyes of God.

Because you are atheists, you ridicule our beliefs and label us as "cherry-picking" hate mongers, hate-spreading bigots, etc. So be it, you're nothing new to come along; your ilk has been around for centuries; you're nothing more than a fog horn belching out a loud noise in the night. in fact you're too blind to see that your actions are just another form of hate-mongering and bigotry, and your descriptions of hypocrisy are nothing short of "cherry-picking".

I'm comfortable with and know where I stand. Nothing you can spout off about or ridicule in my religious and personal beliefs bother me; so call me all the names you wish.

BTW ... I'm certain the Black community appreciates your comparing their equality battles with those of homosexuals. Think about that one, if you're not too lame to comprehend.

[Vrede too]

The article paints a bleak "what if" picture, but I don't think the stupid law is going to make much difference IRL. Here's why: (1)it's going down in court;

Agreed.

(2) I don't think there would be that many people to refuse anyway; (3) it's not like we drive horse and buggies - there's no requirement you have to get a license in the county you live. You don't even have to be an NC resident. Drive over to the next one.

Maybe, it wouldn't take many in adjacent rural counties to cause disruption. If there's any inconvenience at all it's guaranteed to impact more straights than gays, which is still really dumb of the GOP even if it's only theoretical.

[Mr.B]

This article was written by what an atheist, radical activist would describe as a bigoted hate-monger .....

Gay Marriage: Evidence That the Nation Is in the Biblically Foretold Age of Apostasy

"Dozens of books have been written in recent years by liberal theologians in an attempt to demonstrate that homosexuality, homosexual relationships, and homosexual marriage are fully consistent with Biblical Christianity."

Here's some "cherry-picked" scripture:

"“Therefore God gave them over in the lust of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever, Amen."

"And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper" .... “being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”

[JTA]

This article was written by what an atheist, radical activist would describe as a bigoted hate-monger .....

Gay Marriage: Evidence That the Nation Is in the Biblically Foretold Age of Apostasy

"Dozens of books have been written in recent years by liberal theologians in an attempt to demonstrate that homosexuality, homosexual relationships, and homosexual marriage are fully consistent with Biblical Christianity."

Here's some "cherry-picked" scripture:

"“Therefore God gave them over in the lust of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever, Amen."

"And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper" .... “being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.”

All that hot steamy gaysects going on nowadays is probably really the cause of climate change.

[Bungalow Bill]

Grahamy is smart to start on the gay-bashing trail. When folks get tired
of this, he can go back to his Islamophobia theme. When they start to
get tired of that, he can pivot back to gays. A wise strategy and one likely
to be profitable too. Dude knows how to keep the nutjobs excited.

[Mr.B]

"All that hot steamy gaysects going on nowadays is probably really the cause of climate change."

Who knows ... you may be on to something there ....

[O Really]

Grahamy is smart to start on the gay-bashing trail. When folks get tired
of this, he can go back to his Islamophobia theme. When they start to
get tired of that, he can pivot back to gays. A wise strategy and one likely
to be profitable too. Dude knows how to keep the nutjobs excited.

Billy Graham was maybe the only honest and sincere "evangelist" ever. He was never associated with a scandal of any type, and stuck to his own message. He didn't judge; he didn't threaten people with Hell. If he was in his grave, he'd probably be turning over in it what with Franklin is doing.

[Vrede too]

Stereotypical minister's child?

[Bungalow Bill]

Billy Graham was maybe the only honest and sincere "evangelist" ever. He was never associated with a scandal of any type, and stuck to his own message. He didn't judge; he didn't threaten people with Hell. If he was in his grave, he'd probably be turning over in it what with Franklin is doing.

I think when he first started out he might have been more of a brimstone
and hellfire type of preacher, but toned that down. He also had a few
problems via his association with Dick Nixon, who anybody with a healthy
moral sense should have stayed away from. So there have been a few
bumps along the way, but for the most part he's been a pretty decent
man, certainly much better than his sorry offspring. What's the old
saying--we can choose our friends, but we can't choose our relatives.

[O Really]

Yes, he was a confidante of Nixon, and was on what most of us probably consider the wrong side of the issues, but he's been used as a photo op for every President since Truman and was apparently friends with Nixon before he was known to be a crook.

[Seth Milner]

Stereotypical minister's child?

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