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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:10 pm
O Really wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:35 pm
So maybe Charlie Kirk was a really nice fellow, champion of love of humanity and eligible for sainthood and he just said all those racist hate-baiting things because he's an entertainer and performer.
What kind of person is entertained by that racist hate-baiting performance?
I'm a Democrat. My Turning Point USA chapter welcomed me with open arms.

When I arrived at the University of North Carolina-Asheville in 2024, I stood firm in my belief that I was a liberal. I was under the impression liberalism was about tolerance and acceptance for all.

As a political science major, I had a strong desire to stay politically active on campus, but I wanted to study all sides of the spectrum. I made the choice to join both the College Democrats and Turning Point USA this past spring semester of 2025.

Turning Point USA welcomed my unique perspective with open arms. Their president was actually thrilled that I am a Democrat and introduced me as such. She introduced me to the other members and they seemed excited to see that I was willing to talk to them.

I would attend club meetings and debate other members. Not only were my ideas heard, but I was debated civilly and engaged post-meetings by many members, who treated me as a colleague and not an opponent. They were genuinely invested in my thoughts and ideas.

My first meeting at College Democrats was jarring in comparison, and quite eye-opening, too. I had visions in my head of inviting members of the DNC to campus, organizing protests, and having healthy debates with my peers.

What I observed instead was a vast majority of individuals in the club joking about taking their own lives as a bleak response to their disgust with the current state of the world. Passive suicide ideation was accepted and joked about while we spoke about how prominent political figures make them feel.

Many members openly described themselves as depressed, anxious, autistic and suicidal, wearing their illnesses like badges of honor.

Before long, the members of the College Democrats found out I was also a member of Turning Point USA. Next came the name calling and jeers on campus.

Multiple members of the College Democrats consulted the leadership of the club and interrogated the president to find out why I'd been allowed to attend TPUSA meetings, as if I needed permission to talk across the aisle.

In the following weeks, I was stopped and questioned several times on campus about my beliefs by other College Democrats. To their credit, the president of College Democrats at UNCA attempted to encourage others to discuss our disagreements in a more formal manner, but to many it fell on deaf ears.

I soon reached a point of frustration with the group and before long stopped attending. I still champion good causes that I consider to be liberal: pro-gay marriage, progressive tax systems for the wealthy, and even free healthcare.

But there are two different Democratic parties right now — people who lean left and people who need help. The latter are people who are miserable and will attempt to position you as inferior while victimizing themselves if you do not march to their tune.

After the shooting of Charlie Kirk last month, many on campus mourned the tragedy, but I noticed some of the same individuals who shouted me down last semester championed his death.

The week following Kirk's murder I began seeing posters advertising a seminar that stated: "Be Gay. Do Crime. Everyday acts of queer resistance and rebellion." It was to be led by a UNCA sociology professor.

A week ago I would have mistaken the poster as another cringe-worthy phrase pulled from a Reddit post. But after Kirk's killing it feels different and all too intentional.

A call to arms roping gay individuals into a message about violent rhetoric is about the worst thing you can do for the community right now.

Since coming to UNCA, my understanding of the liberal spectrum has been broadened in a haunting fashion.

I am no longer sure of my future as a Democrat. I am certain, however, that if Democrats want to ever win votes back, they need to stop romanticizing victimhood and violence and start engaging in a civil and productive manner.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/im-a-demo ... open-arms/

Changing minds. Thanks North Carolina Asheville. :thumbup:

The movement is growing. :clap:
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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:09 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
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Well, it apparently hasn't helped you out.
Your concern about me is appreciative.
The only "concern" I hold with regard to you is the fact that you evidently cannot recognize hate mongering when you see it, but instead you evidently embrace and advocate for it. That's the difference between you and I......I tolerate stuff like Charlie Kirk; you advocate for it.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:33 am
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:09 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:02 am
Well, it apparently hasn't helped you out.
Your concern about me is appreciative.
The only "concern" I hold with regard to you is the fact that you evidently cannot recognize hate mongering when you see it, but instead you evidently embrace and advocate for it. That's the difference between you and I......I tolerate stuff like Charlie Kirk; you advocate for it.
UNC Asheville Democrat TPUSA member stated his first meeting with college democrats was jarring in comparison. Many campus democrats described themselves as depressed, anxious, autistic and suicidal, wearing their illnesses like badges of honor.
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Here's a good one.....a guy running for president of Young Republicans started a chat room where he and other Young Republicans praise Hitler, exchange vile racist remarks, and generally be themselves. Yet when the text messages are made public, they begin crying and apologizing and alleging that their own words were somehow manipulated. Looks like the Young Republicans are nothing but a whiny bunch of snowflakes who like to talk big talk but wilt like parched flowers when confronted.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/vil ... 53658.html

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