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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:52 pm
Fed Reserve projection: 47 million lost jobs, 32% unemployment rate! :shock:
Max we got to in the great depression was 25%.

On the flip - supposedly a lot of those job losses are due to everything shutting down for quarantine. Hopefully that'll jump back down to a much much lower number once we get back to "normalcy" should that ever happen again
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Shout out to Dr. Fauci. Sounds more presidential and inspiring than Donald T.
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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:01 pm
Shout out to Dr. Fauci.

Ditto!

Sounds more presidential and inspiring than Donald T.

Low bar to set :D .
We'll see, he may be the sole person to publicly (or privately?) disagree with PINO that doesn't get fired.
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Top White House advisers predict as many as 240,000 US deaths from coronavirus - live updates

... Without intervention, Birx said, as many 2.2 million could have died....
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Top White House advisers predict as many as 240,000 US deaths from coronavirus - live updates

... Without intervention, Birx said, as many 2.2 million could have died....
Which everyone with half a brain knew before it finally dawned on Cheetohead.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:47 pm
Which everyone with half a brain knew before it finally dawned on Cheetohead.
Moscow Mitch is now blaming the Dems and impeachment despite that fact that PINO was openly dismissive of the threat on 1/24 and 1/25.
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Ulysses wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 1:39 am
A chilling tale of what one may experience with CV19...

And IMHO extremely well-written.

How the Coronavirus Could Take Over Your Body (Before You Ever Feel It)
You call a friend and arrange to meet for lunch. It’s unseasonably springlike, so you choose a place with outdoor seating, which seems like it should be safer. As usual, you take all reasonable precautions: You use hand sanitizer, sit a good distance from other customers, and try to avoid touching your face, though that last part is hard. A part of you suspects that this whole thing might be overblown.

What you don’t know is that ten days ago, your friend’s father was a guest of his business partner at the University Club, where he caught the novel coronavirus from the wife of a cryptocurrency speculator. Three days after that, he coughed into his hand before opening the door of his apartment to welcome his son home. The saliva of COVID-19 patients can harbor half a trillion virus particles per teaspoon, and a cough aerosolizes it into a diffuse mist. As your friend walked through the door he took a breath and 32,456 virus particles settled onto the lining of his mouth and throat.

Viruses have been multiplying inside his body ever since. And as he talks, the passage of his breath over the moist lining of his upper throat creates tiny droplets of virus-laden mucus that waft invisibly into the air over your table. Some settle on the as-yet-uneaten food on your plate, some drift onto your fingers, others are drawn into your nasal sinus or settle into your throat. By the time you extend your hand to shake good-bye, your body is carrying 43,654 virus particles. By the time you’re done shaking hands, that number is up to 312,405.

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Thank god that I'm poor and can't get it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/26/americas ... _expansion

could this ass be worse than trump?


""The majority are wealthy people, you know," he said, answering his own question. "If you're rich you're at risk, but if you're poor, no, well us poor, we are immune."'


I'm just so glad to know that I'm immune - pookie what I noticed - more proof positive - I'm and immune have the same first 2 letters - party time for sure
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bannination wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:19 pm
Starting to sound like Hendersonville, NC is getting ready to go on full lock down lasting up to May?

I've already been on personal lock down for two weeks.
Hendersonville, openly: You may stay only one night in our hotels. More than that and it's 14-day quarantine. I don't know if either mandate is legal, but there it is.

The county had its first confirmed positive test in the last couple of days.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:27 pm
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Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:37 pm
... I notice too that the same escambia county that closed all beaches to everyone is still running countywide bus service - including to Pensacola Beach.
That's a tough one. I saw a pic of a crowded NYC subway, but what are people without cars supposed to do?
Buses and subways could undo all other efforts.
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Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:39 pm
I suppose, I just don't know what the alternative is.
Walk, stay home, drive, but subways and public buses should have been one of the first things shut down.

Or we could just do the easy ones and let it spread as some as suggesting.
Shutting them down might be worth it, but:

"Walk" - some distances are too far and some can't walk at all
"stay home" - not possible forever
"drive" - if one has a car

What do we say to these people?

Maybe, idk - Monitored, enforced, mandatory symptom checks, masks and hand sanitizer for all riders, hourly cleaning?
They Can't Afford to Quarantine. So They Brave the Subway.

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Maybe instead of masks, we should all wear burkas. Just add goggles and gloves.

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Ulysses wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:51 am
It bears repeating: it's not a question of if everyone will be infected (or at least be exposed to live virus), it's a question of when.

It's possible, but doubtful, that some will be immune. The data from Iceland indicates that up to 50% of those infected with the virus will have no symptoms, or just mild symptoms.

Not a question of if, but when.
Very important corollaries to that:

Is the curve flattened enough that the healthcare system can deal with the newly infected?
How much progress has been made in treatment by the time one is exposed?
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O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:56 am
Maybe instead of masks, we should all wear burkas. Just add goggles and gloves.
Have you run that idea by Lady O yet?
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O Really wrote:
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Maybe instead of masks, we should all wear burkas. Just add goggles and gloves.

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She's hot.

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Just out of interest, does the US publish an annual report on influenza deaths, or is that too difficult with a fragmented, overpriced healthcare system?

Here in UK, where I am about as limey as the next man rather than, as here, limier than most, we lost appx. 16k dead last year to flu.

This year so far 1600 to Corvid.

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Ulysses wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:05 pm
By progress I'm assuming you mean, mostly, how well has the community's medical resources ramped up to provide life saving care to all those who need it to live?

I would not expect a magical cure in at least the next half-year.
I make no predictions. Improvements in supportive care are most likely. However, successful treatments are possible. Numerous drug trials are already underway.
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Limier than most wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:09 pm
Just out of interest, does the US publish an annual report on influenza deaths, or is that too difficult with a fragmented, overpriced healthcare system?

Here in UK, where I am about as limey as the next man rather than, as here, limier than most, we lost appx. 16k dead last year to flu.

This year so far 1600 to Corvid.
US gets 30-60K per year die from flu. But the death count isn't really the main issue. Flu has vaccines, some treatments, and some predictability. COVID-19 has none of those and it's behaviour isn't known well. So sure, you've only got 16K in the cart so far, but it's still rising and rising quickly.

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Limier than most wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:09 pm
Just out of interest, does the US publish an annual report on influenza deaths, or is that too difficult with a fragmented, overpriced healthcare system?

Here in UK, where I am about as limey as the next man rather than, as here, limier than most, we lost appx. 16k dead last year to flu.

This year so far 1600 to Corvid.
2018-2019 flu:
CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2018–2019 season included an estimated 35.5 million people getting sick with influenza, 16.5 million people going to a health care provider for their illness, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths from influenza.

2019-2020 flu, so far:
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 39 million flu illnesses, 400,000 hospitalizations and 24,000 deaths from flu.
OR:
24,000 – 62,000 flu deaths

2020 CV-19:
US deaths 4,102+
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O Really wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:30 pm
US gets 30-60K per year die from flu. But the death count isn't really the main issue. Flu has vaccines, some treatments, and some predictability. COVID-19 has none of those and it's behaviour isn't known well. So sure, you've only got 16K in the cart so far, but it's still rising and rising quickly.
Most years flu mortality is predictable, heavily weighted to the very old, already very sick and the very young. CV-19 mortality is weighted to the very old and already very sick, but plenty of younger adults are also dying, more so than with the flu. Kids seem to be doing pretty well.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:21 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:27 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:12 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 2:37 pm
... I notice too that the same escambia county that closed all beaches to everyone is still running countywide bus service - including to Pensacola Beach.
That's a tough one. I saw a pic of a crowded NYC subway, but what are people without cars supposed to do?
Buses and subways could undo all other efforts.
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:15 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:57 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:39 pm
I suppose, I just don't know what the alternative is.
Walk, stay home, drive, but subways and public buses should have been one of the first things shut down.

Or we could just do the easy ones and let it spread as some as suggesting.
Shutting them down might be worth it, but:

"Walk" - some distances are too far and some can't walk at all
"stay home" - not possible forever
"drive" - if one has a car

What do we say to these people?

Maybe, idk - Monitored, enforced, mandatory symptom checks, masks and hand sanitizer for all riders, hourly cleaning?
They Can't Afford to Quarantine. So They Brave the Subway.

:(


idiots one and all - including those who throw up their hand and say sure to all sorts of restrictions but would leave this huge door wide open

time to accept real measures - some will be hard, but resisting compliance ain't brave
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Sometime Lefty wrote:
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Sometime Lefty wrote:
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On April 14th we are flying to Hawaii, staying for 2 weeks then taking a cruise ship to Seattle. Booked in January. Do I have foresight or am I just lucky?
... we are packing some extra clothes for quarantine, hope they also do laundry.
You dodged a bullet:

Coast Guard: Cruise ships must stay at sea with sick onboard

I assume that you've also cancelled Hawaii. I hope that disappointment is as bad as it gets for you.
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