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Brother wrote:
Reality wrote:Yes, the Moderator is in the walk back mode but what she did is a typical lib tactic because there will be more who heard what she said last night than will hear the walk back.

She and Matthews have "tingle" interference.

What did she say that she has to "walk back?" He said what he said. She fast checked it right there and stopped the argument. The President told him to get the transcript and then he was just going to let Romney hang himself - which he did.
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keyboarder wrote: It was consistently referred to as a spontaneous attack by protestors who were offended by an American made film that made jest of their religion and their prophet. .

You just can't keep from lying.. can you?

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Remarks by the President on the Deaths of U.S. Embassy Staff in Libya

Rose Garden

10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

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10:48 A.M. EDT

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To give you the benefit of the doubt.. likely the "version" you heard on Fox was, as typical for Fox.. dramatically edited.. Or maybe you're bigotry just has a problem with the President not referring to them as "muzzies"


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I'll take my "supposed' bigotry over your very dangerous naivety and complacence any day.
BTW, I wasn't on the set of the airing of the newscast. i was sitting in front of my TV watching the farce, and it was exactly that if they edited it out to leave off the word terror. Events like these are of serious importance to citizens and i'm not afraid to hear troubling news except as it may involve my grandchildren's safety.

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keyboarder wrote:I'll take my "supposed' bigotry over your very dangerous naivety and complacence any day. .
I'm sure you can tell from that way I've destroyed each nonsensical post from the army of nitwits that spew on this forum that I an anything but naive... And you'd be horrible wrong to assume that I was complacent..
keyboarder wrote: i was sitting in front of my TV watching the farce, and it was exactly that if they edited it out to leave off the word terror.
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Yes.. Fox News is a farce... .. .

keyboarder wrote:Events like these are of serious importance to citizens and i'm not afraid to hear troubling news except as it may involve my grandchildren's safety.
I see.. :roll: .. but not enough to find out exactly what was said.. .. . i.e. the typical Fox viewer.. .
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http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/family/ ... 2-election

Ann Romney speaks about Mitt's temper. Maybe, it is not past tense as she thinks it is. -0-?

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There was no if about it. The nutters have been trying to sell Obama as some type of secret Muslim
or even secret radical Muslim for the last four years. The only ones falling for it are the loony tunes.
Does anyone think Muslims follow everything that is written in the Koran or Christians everything
that is in the NT? Doubt it.

When your guy doesn't do that well, blame the moderator. Mittman couldn't figure out the difference
between one and fourteen. Pathetic.


*On the afternoon of Saturday, 2001-SEP-15, a gunman killed the 49 year old owner of a gas station in Mesa, AZ. He was a Sikh. His family believes that he was killed because he "looked Middle Eastern." Additional shots were fired at a Lebanese clerk and at the home of an Afghan family.

* On the evening of Saturday, 2001-SEP-15, a gunman killed a Pakistani Muslim store owner in Dallas, TX.

* Adel Karas, 48, an Egyptian-American grocer was shot and killed near his International Market store in San Gabriel, CA. He was a Copt -- neither Muslim nor Arab. No money was taken. Police are investigating the murder as a possible hate crime.

* A man drove his car through the front entrance of Parma Mosque in Cleveland OH.

* Also on Saturday, a Christian of Egyptian origin was shot dead in California.

* Near Chicago, IL, there was a march in which about 300 anti-Arab youths waved flags, shouted "USA, USA," and attempted to march on a mosque in Bridgeview, IL -- a suburb southwest of Chicago. Colin Zaremba, 19, said: "I'm proud to be American and I hate Arabs and I always have." Three demonstrators were arrested.

* In Chicago, a Molotov cocktail was thrown t an Arab-American community center. There were no injuries and little damage.

* In Huntington, NY, Adam Lang, reportedly a drunken driver, 75, allegedly tried to kill a Pakistani woman with his car. He later followed the woman into a store and threatened to kill her for "destroying my country."

* In Gary, IN, a man wearing a mask pumped over 20 bullets from a high-powered assault rifle at a Muslim, Hassan Awdah. He survived. Hassan is a U.S. citizen, born in Yemen.

* In Lynnwood, WA, a mosque was vandalized.

* In Suffolk County, NY, a man allegedly made anti-Arab threats and pointed a handgun at the employee of a gas station. He was arrested.

* In a prison in Washington state, two inmates fought over an anti-Muslim slur.

* a gasoline bomb was thrown into the home of a Sikh family in California.

* Two mosques were firebombed with Molotov cocktails during the weekend of OCT-20-21. They are located in Burlington and Mississauga, near Toronto ON Canada. Kendrich House, 35, from Oakville ON has allegedly been charged.

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BB, how many in your laundry list made the national news?

BTW, if you construct another list from the opposite perspective can you list November 5, 2009 and put Nidal Hasan's name by it.

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I'm sure the people who were killed made the national news. I certainly remember it being
in the news. Hasan is irrelevant since the topic was standing up for Muslims when things
were getting bad for them, as they did in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Hasan had
nothing to do with that.

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Fox News is the best because it scares all the libs.Fox only says the truth.

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jknowgood wrote:Fox News is the best because it scares all the libs.Fox only says the truth.
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Brother, I suggest you ask the moderator why she is walking it back. She's the one that did it.

"An "unpresidential" Barack Obama left himself "open for a wide hit" on Libya during last night's contentious second debate, analyst Dick Morris tells Newsmax, as moderator Candy Crowley sparked outrage for contradicting Mitt Romney on camera but acknowledged afterward that Romney "was right in the main" about the administration's discredited narrative."

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Reality wrote:Newsmax
:shock: Bruhahahahahahah... :lol:

Look.. anyone that isn't an idiot can read President Obama's 9/12 statement...

He (and Crowley ) correctly on live TV busted Rmoney for lying..

If Rmoney didn't lie.. he'd have no platform at all .. It's just what he does...
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President Obama’s attempts to wriggle free from his own words and actions on Libya are making things worse.

American Crossroads, taking exception to Obama’s announcement last night that he really had declared Benghazi to be an act of terrorism, has sent out a memo, which reads:

The President clearly misled the American people with this claim, because if Obama’s Rose Garden speech was indeed the White House position, it did not inform any subsequent statement by the White House press office — and was even directly contradicted by his own spokesman several days later.
On September 20 — eight days after Obama claims to have called the Benghazi attack an “act of terror” — Jay Carney affirmed to reporters that the White House had never called it “a terrorist attack.”
From the gaggle on Air Force One, en route to Miami, 9/20/2012:
Q: Can you — have you called it a terrorist attack before? Have you said that?
MR. CARNEY: I haven’t, but — I mean, people attacked our embassy. It’s an act of terror by definition.
Q: Yes, I just hadn’t heard you —
MR. CARNEY: It doesn’t have to do with what date it occurred.
Q: No, I just hadn’t heard the White House say that this was an act of terrorism or a terrorist attack. And I just —

MR. CARNEY: I don’t think the fact that we hadn’t is not — as our NCTC Director testified yesterday, a number of different elements appear to have been involved in the attack, including individuals connected to militant groups that are prevalent in eastern Libya, particularly in the Benghazi area. We are looking at indications that individuals involved in the attack may have had connections to al Qaeda or al Qaeda’s affiliates, in particular al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
Here, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney actually affirmed Gov. Romney’s position that the White House did not call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism. Carney also said the now infamous video “precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi” the day before.
The memo goes on to argue that Obama’s position on Libya is “untenable.” That’s about the shape of things. Did he call it an act of terror and go around misleading the country for two weeks that it was a spontaneous reaction to the anti-Muslim movie? Or did he not call it terror on Sept. 12 and lie to the voters last night?

There is another problem with Obama’s response. Recall this part of his answer: “So as soon as we found out that the Benghazi Consulate was being overrun, I was on the phone with my national security team, and I gave them three instructions. Number one, beef up our security and — and — and procedures not just in Libya but every embassy and consulate in the region. Number two, investigate exactly what happened, regardless of where the facts lead us, to make sure that folks are held accountable and it doesn’t happen again. And number three, we are going to find out who did this, and we are going to hunt them down, because one of the things that I’ve said throughout my presidency is when folks mess with Americans, we go after them”

So there was no actual meeting of the National Security Council at which everyone could share information and get on the same page? (David Axelrod has refused to say.) It doesn’t sound like it. But you know Obama was busy that day — flying to Las Vegas for a campaign event. So really, why have a meeting? Well, the weeks of confusion and dissembling that followed should answer that.

Moreover, if he actually did instruct his team to heighten protection for the Libya Consulate, why was the consulate left unsecured so that CNN could waltz in to grab Ambassador Chris Stevens’s diary? Did Obama not make himself clear, or were his instructions not followed?

The more we learn the more we see how both dishonest and incompetent has been the handling of this entire incident. The Obama White House may be out spinning the press to buy into the Obama-Crowley line, but no one is buying it. As the rest of the information comes to light, the president retains less and less credibility. Like a fish on a line he flops this way and that, trying to break free of his self-created trap.

And finally, this Reuters report suggests the administration was entirely unprepared for the 9-11 attacks.:

In the months before the deadly attack in Benghazi, Libya, U.S. and allied intelligence agencies warned the White House and State Department repeatedly that the region was becoming an increasingly dangerous vortex for jihadist groups loosely linked or sympathetic to al Qaeda, according to U.S. officials.
Despite those warnings, and bold public displays by Islamist militants around Benghazi, embassies in the region were advised to project a sense of calm and normalcy in the run-up to the anniversary of the September 11 attacks in the United States.
In short, it appears that the Obama administration didn’t take 9-11 all that seriously, and when tragedy hit, it went into spin mode. Now the president is caught in a tangle of contradictions. Not even Candy Crowley can get him out.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/rig ... _blog.html

Bottom line, Obama lied and people died.

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Reality wrote:Piper, I agree there's a need to know and it's not always the best approach to make snap judgements but such was not the case in the Libyan incident. Soon after and with intell to the contrary, the SOS said the incident was a reaction to the anti Islam video made by an American. Do you think she said that to buy time?
Thanks for the civil reply, but I don't think I have any more to say in this thread, and I'm taking a hard look at the other threads. The replies to posts are nothing more than foul-mouthed bullying carried out by immature potty-mouths who's lives obviously revolve around their ability to hide behind a computer keyboard and spew their hateful filth.

I understand that Bannination created this forum as an uncensored venue in retaliation to BRNow's clamping down on attacks and foul language, and because their power went to their heads, and they were banning posters merely for asking questions.
I myself, was banned for two weeks merely for questioning the tactics of the "Moderator".

Anyway, I think the creation of this "Uncensored" forum was a noble gesture, but unfortunately, the "uncensored" part is being grossly taken advantage of; and it mainly appears to be the folks who have joined from other out-of-town forums.

Personally, if I was Bannination, I would take another look at the monster you've created and take appropriate action; but if each of you who post here enjoy this childish playground bickering and s**t-house language, then have at it. Don't forget to show your spouses, kids, or grand kids how prolific you are in the English language, and how well you have managed to master debates and commentaries.

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The Piper wrote:
Reality wrote:Piper, I agree there's a need to know and it's not always the best approach to make snap judgements but such was not the case in the Libyan incident. Soon after and with intell to the contrary, the SOS said the incident was a reaction to the anti Islam video made by an American. Do you think she said that to buy time?
Thanks for the civil reply, but I don't think I have any more to say in this thread, and I'm taking a hard look at the other threads. The replies to posts are nothing more than foul-mouthed bullying carried out by immature potty-mouths who's lives obviously revolve around their ability to hide behind a computer keyboard and spew their hateful filth.

I understand that Bannination created this forum as an uncensored venue in retaliation to BRNow's clamping down on attacks and foul language, and because their power went to their heads, and they were banning posters merely for asking questions.
I myself, was banned for two weeks merely for questioning the tactics of the "Moderator".

Anyway, I think the creation of this "Uncensored" forum was a noble gesture, but unfortunately, the "uncensored" part is being grossly taken advantage of; and it mainly appears to be the folks who have joined from other out-of-town forums.

Personally, if I was Bannination, I would take another look at the monster you've created and take appropriate action; but if each of you who post here enjoy this childish playground bickering and s**t-house language, then have at it. Don't forget to show your spouses, kids, or grand kids how prolific you are in the English language, and how well you have managed to master debates and commentaries.
Well said Piper, I couldn't agree more.

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While I greatly appreciate the work to develop this forum I do not think Banni will take Piper up on his suggestion. One only has to look at who Piper is referring to to determine they are his buds.

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The Piper wrote:... but if each of you who post here enjoy this childish playground bickering and s**t-house language, then have at it.

So what is the difference between implying "s**t-house language" and writing shit-house language? Both say the exact same thing, how is one acceptable to you and the other not?

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Polls say Romney leads because he is a leader.

I think it is in the realm of possibilities Obama will not show up for the last debate.

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Tertius wrote:Polls say Romney leads because he is a leader.

I think it is in the realm of possibilities Obama will not show up for the last debate.
Has he shown up yet?

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Sometime Lefty wrote:
The Piper wrote:... but if each of you who post here enjoy this childish playground bickering and s**t-house language, then have at it.
So what is the difference between implying "s**t-house language" and writing shit-house language? Both say the exact same thing, how is one acceptable to you and the other not?
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Today's numbers in the TN show 69% say Romney won the debate; 31% for Obama. These nums are consistent with the results of the previous debate.

Deos anyone want to take a guess on how the reading audience of the TN intends to vote? Is this representative of the rest of the US?

Of course we all know that a significant number of voters do not read the paper nor do they view the on line edition so I suspect the nums are not a direct representation of this area.

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