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Damn universities - don't all of them teach Liberal Arts, what the fuck good does that do?
It keeps liberal artists from taking jobs from real Murricans.
Sadly, I have heard people claim that the names, School of Arts and Sciences, Liberal Studies, College of Liberal Arts, are proof that they indoctrinate students to be liberals.

Maybe they would prefer

https://www.conserveschool.org/
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Sadly, I have heard people claim that the names, School of Arts and Sciences, Liberal Studies, College of Liberal Arts, are proof that they indoctrinate students to be liberals.

Maybe they would prefer

https://www.conserveschool.org/
Speaking of indoctrination:

Supreme Court rules (5-4) religious schools should get state grants given to other private schools

I hate the idea of my tax dollars going to xtian madrassas, but maaaybe this will eventually limit or end state voucher and private school scholarship programs entirely. Let the fundies paddle their own boat.
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Trump administration drops rule barring foreign students from taking online-only classes

President Donald Trump's administration agreed Tuesday to rescind its controversial rule barring international students from living in the USA while taking fall classes online, a sharp reversal after the White House faced a slew of lawsuits challenging the policy.

A Massachusetts judge announced the decision during a federal court hearing in a case filed last week by Harvard University and Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Judge Allison Burroughs said the universities' request for the court to block the rule was moot because the government agreed to rescind the policy.

Monday, 18 state attorneys general sued the Department of Homeland Security over the rule, which would have forced foreign students to leave or face deportation if they were enrolled in only online classes this fall, when experts fear expanded outbreaks of COVID-19 cases.

The court said the Trump administration agreed to revert to a previous rule, implemented in March, when the coronavirus pandemic caused shutdowns across the country. Under that policy, international students were allowed to attend all classes online during the pandemic.

Some universities plan to offer classes entirely online this fall because of concerns that college campuses could create coronavirus hot spots and add to the country's caseload. The new rule, issued July 6 by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, would have been devastating for students and universities alike.

The Trump administration issued the tougher immigration policy as it seeks to push universities and K-12 schools to reopen in the fall despite soaring COVID-19 infections across the country....

Major U.S. technology companies and other businesses, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Google and Facebook, joined the legal fray Monday, arguing in court papers that the rule would have "serious adverse economic consequences."

"America’s future competitiveness depends on attracting and retaining talented international students," the companies argued.

The rule could have dealt a major economic blow to colleges and universities, as well as the communities surrounding them, because of the loss of tuition and other revenue from international students, who typically pay full price.

The number of international students studying in the USA reached 1.1 million in the 2018-19 academic year, according to the Institute of International Education, and they make up 5.5% of the total U.S. higher education population.

International students contributed nearly $45 billion to the U.S. economy in 2018, according to data from the U.S. Department of Commerce.
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Sadly, I have heard people claim that the names, School of Arts and Sciences, Liberal Studies, College of Liberal Arts, are proof that they indoctrinate students to be liberals.

Maybe they would prefer

https://www.conserveschool.org/
Speaking of indoctrination:

Supreme Court rules (5-4) religious schools should get state grants given to other private schools

I hate the idea of my tax dollars going to xtian madrassas, but maaaybe this will eventually limit or end state voucher and private school scholarship programs entirely. Let the fundies paddle their own boat.

Nope, it will only diminish public schools and raise taxes.
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Betsy DeVos just crossed another line. She's an ongoing danger to teachers and students.

As much of the country experiences an alarming surge of COVID-19 cases, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is carrying President Donald Trump’s water by demanding that states reopen their schools after the summer break. She makes this demand with no sense of how schools can do this safely. But just beneath her disregard for public health is a shocking ignorance about the fundamental nature of authority over public schools in this country. The secretary assumes she has that power and wants to run roughshod over those who do. In fact, shortly after making the demand, the governors of South Carolina, Iowa and Florida bowed to her assertion of authority, much to the dismay of educators in those states.

DeVos’ blanket demand that schools open is dangerous in its complete lack of consideration for student and teacher safety. She dismisses the risk of spreading COVID-19 among students, teachers and staff in school buildings. She offers no guidelines or standards on what measures are necessary to allow for a safe return to the classroom. She refuses to say schools should follow guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or acknowledge that schools will need to close and return to remote learning in the event of an outbreak.

The danger of DeVos' demands

On top of that, DeVos threatens to put schools in a double bind: Open under potentially unsafe conditions or lose the money that you will need to open safely later. DeVos has warned local education officials that if they do not reopen their buildings — no matter what — she will withhold federal funding. Just when the pandemic has focused the nation’s attention on the essential role of public schools for families and communities, and when they need more, not fewer, resources to safely reopen, she wants to pull the plug on the funds schools must have to safely reopen.

The one saving grace is the secretary's apparent ignorance of the fact that she lacks the statutory power to follow through on this threat. She can’t close schools, and she sure can’t open them either. Federal education statutes do not condition the receipt of federal funds on districts educating their students only in school buildings. As long as the states continue to deliver education to students, DeVos can complain all she wants, but she has no power to stop the flow of funds appropriated by Congress.

And the reality on the ground confirms that the states, not federal officials, make these decisions. It was, after all, just four months ago that states ordered school buildings closed and transitioned to distance learning, and then ordered them to stay closed until summer....
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Nevertheless, 3 of the largest school systems in the country announced that they won't open on time. All are in suburban VA and MD, and my childhood home Montgomery County, MD is one of them.
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Nevertheless, 3 of the largest school systems in the country announced that they won't open on time. All are in suburban VA and MD, and my childhood home Montgomery County, MD is one of them.
LA, San Diego, Seattle, Miami - nobody is "fully opening" or even close to it.

Idaho (Repug) gov says he'd like to see schools "open and stay open" but it's up to the locals. Coeur d'Alene says, "ummmm, we don't think so."

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LA, San Diego, Seattle, Miami - nobody is "fully opening" or even close to it.

Idaho (Repug) gov says he'd like to see schools "open and stay open" but it's up to the locals. Coeur d'Alene says, "ummmm, we don't think so."
Back to school? Despite CDC recommendations, most major schools going online as COVID-19 cases spike

It's a crying shame that PINO did not provide and still isn't providing the resources and leadership that the nation needed and needs. Now, much of the country is just ignoring him and is fending for itself.
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LA, San Diego, Seattle, Miami - nobody is "fully opening" or even close to it.

Idaho (Repug) gov says he'd like to see schools "open and stay open" but it's up to the locals. Coeur d'Alene says, "ummmm, we don't think so."
Back to school? Despite CDC recommendations, most major schools going online as COVID-19 cases spike

It's a crying shame that PINO did not provide and still isn't providing the resources and leadership that the nation needed and needs. Now, much of the country is just ignoring him and is fending for itself.
As far as I know we are still not allowed to do anything online
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As far as I know we are still not allowed to do anything online
Idk what his authority is on the matter, but I heard DeSantis saying in the last couple of days that kids whose parents are concerned about in-person instruction should be able to do remote learning.
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As far as I know we are still not allowed to do anything online
Idk what his authority is on the matter, but I heard DeSantis saying in the last couple of days that kids whose parents are concerned about in-person instruction should be able to do remote learning.
Private schools, church schools, hom schuls, but he personally eliminated all funds for remote classes from the public school budget. I haven't heard of any progress there - I hope that there has.
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Private schools, church schools, hom schuls, but he personally eliminated all funds for remote classes from the public school budget. I haven't heard of any progress there - I hope that there has.
Gov. DeSantis says parents should have ‘meaningful choice’ about education

Public funding isn't specifically discussed, but the implication is that distance learning will be supported. I guess you'll find out.
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Private schools, church schools, hom schuls, but he personally eliminated all funds for remote classes from the public school budget. I haven't heard of any progress there - I hope that there has.
Gov. DeSantis says parents should have ‘meaningful choice’ about education

Public funding isn't specifically discussed, but the implication is that distance learning will be supported. I guess you'll find out.
This is the most recent I can find. Of course the media dropped coverage for the next shiny object.

https://uspirg.org/news/usp/statement-f ... nts-during
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The United States Is Reopening Many of the Wrong Schools

With coronavirus cases spiking in dozens of states, the prospect of anything resembling a normal school year is fading fast.

Schools can’t safely reopen if infections are exploding in the communities they serve.

But in regions where the pandemic appears to be under control, it is most important to get the youngest children back into school buildings, to stop the alarming slide in their learning. Older students, especially those in college, are better equipped to cope with the difficulties of online education.

That is the broad consensus among experts on back-to-school priorities. But, as things stand now, much of the United States is preparing to do exactly the opposite....
Ironic that we're being so ignorant about education.
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Dr. Quentin Lee, principal of Childersburg High School in Childersburg, Alabama:


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Private schools, church schools, hom schuls, but he personally eliminated all funds for remote classes from the public school budget. I haven't heard of any progress there - I hope that there has.
Gov. DeSantis says parents should have ‘meaningful choice’ about education

Public funding isn't specifically discussed, but the implication is that distance learning will be supported. I guess you'll find out.
https://www-palmbeachpost-com.cdn.amppr ... 5251%2524s


"state leaders told school boards they would need Health Department approval if they wanted to keep classrooms closed.

Then they instructed health directors not to give it.

Following a directive from DeSantis'"


"Keeping campuses closed, they said, risked violating an edict last month from state Education Commission Richard Corcoran, which decreed public schools "must open brick and mortar schools at least five days per week."'


Unless your kid hoes to a private school, he must go to a spreader school.
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Unless your kid hoes to a private school, he must go to a spreader school.
Miami-Dade is not opening until 8/31 and then will be online. I wouldn't be surprised if some other of the larger districts tell DeSantis to go stick his directive up his ass and see him in court.

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https://www-palmbeachpost-com.cdn.amppr ... 5251%2524s

"state leaders told school boards they would need Health Department approval if they wanted to keep classrooms closed.

Then they instructed health directors not to give it.

Following a directive from DeSantis'"

"Keeping campuses closed, they said, risked violating an edict last month from state Education Commission Richard Corcoran, which decreed public schools "must open brick and mortar schools at least five days per week."'

Unless your kid hoes to a private school, he must go to a spreader school.
I guess you found out. Bastards.
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"... Following a directive from DeSantis"

"Keeping campuses closed, they said, risked violating an edict last month from state Education Commission Richard Corcoran, which decreed public schools 'must open brick and mortar schools at least five days per week.'"
(Jacksonville) Teacher writes her own mock obituary to protest school reopenings: 'She succumbed to the ignorance of those in power'

... “With profound sadness, I announce the passing of Whitney Leigh Reddick. A loving and devoted teacher, mother, daughter, wife, aunt and friend to all whose lives she touched, on August 7th, 2020,” wrote Reddick. “She left us while alone in isolation and on a ventilator at a Duval County hospital in Jacksonville, Florida. She was in her 33rd year.”

... Reddick concluded her obituary by saying she “succumbed to the ignorance of those in power,” and asked readers to send their respects to area leadership who determined that returning to a traditional five-day school week was a suitable option.

“Please send your condolences to Governor Ron DeSantis, Mayor Lenny Curry and finally the Duval County School Board and superintendent,” she wrote....
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Complete obituary
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Key West, Florida:

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Plus, nobody is wearing a mask. :thumbdown:
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Key West, Florida:

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Plus, nobody is wearing a mask. :thumbdown:
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