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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:12 pm


What's on the menu for Superbowl Superbowl Sunday? I'm looking for ideas.
Can't specifically recommend this, because we haven't had it yet. But Lady O never makes anything that's not good.
Cheesy Marinara Beans
https://www.eatingwell.com/recipe/79522 ... ara-beans/

Speaking of odd things, there's a "Vegan Jewish Delicatessen" that I've been considering trying. Why? I dunno, it's not like there aren't plenty of real deli's around, but I'm really curious as to how close their plant-based reuben is to a real one. If I do go, I'll report back.

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Speaking of odd things, there's a "Vegan Jewish Delicatessen" that I've been considering trying. Why? I dunno, it's not like there aren't plenty of real deli's around, but I'm really curious as to how close their plant-based reuben is to a real one. If I do go, I'll report back.

https://www.benandesthers.com/
I'll anxiously be awaiting your review. :roll:

Vegan meats, fish, cream cheese, sour cream and mayo?

Honestly, I've never tried most of that stuff but I'm guessing a lot is lost in translation.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:47 am
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Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:00 am

Speaking of odd things, there's a "Vegan Jewish Delicatessen" that I've been considering trying. Why? I dunno, it's not like there aren't plenty of real deli's around, but I'm really curious as to how close their plant-based reuben is to a real one. If I do go, I'll report back.

https://www.benandesthers.com/
I'll anxiously be awaiting your review. :roll:

Vegan meats, fish, cream cheese, sour cream and mayo?

Honestly, I've never tried most of that stuff but I'm guessing a lot is lost in translation.
I'm not expecting much, but apparently the shop does a strong business. They started in Portland with two, have one in Seattle, now one in SD and in O'side. Even if it turned out better than I expect, I can't see eating it regularly. I don't actually eat stuff like pastrami, corned beef, etc. very often and when I do I want the authentic stuff.

There's a bagel place that makes authentic NYC bagels, even down to reformulating water to copy New York's. This I have tried and they're excellent. https://www.inglouriousbagels.com/home

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:47 am
O Really wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:00 am

Speaking of odd things, there's a "Vegan Jewish Delicatessen" that I've been considering trying. Why? I dunno, it's not like there aren't plenty of real deli's around, but I'm really curious as to how close their plant-based reuben is to a real one. If I do go, I'll report back.

https://www.benandesthers.com/
I'll anxiously be awaiting your review. :roll:

Vegan meats, fish, cream cheese, sour cream and mayo?

Honestly, I've never tried most of that stuff but I'm guessing a lot is lost in translation.
No idea if true, but there was an article, by someone, claiming that unless labeled "Organic", it's full of really bad stuff.
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Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 am


No idea if true, but there was an article, by someone, claiming that unless labeled "Organic", it's full of really bad stuff.
A cursory search doesn't turn up much in objective evaluation, but the "Beyond" people claim to be kosher. I'm not big into fake stuff of any sort, though.
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O Really wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:52 am
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No idea if true, but there was an article, by someone, claiming that unless labeled "Organic", it's full of really bad stuff.
A cursory search doesn't turn up much in objective evaluation, but the "Beyond" people claim to be kosher.
Does that mean that someone prayed over it?
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Does that mean that someone prayed over it?
Oy vey! :lol:

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:52 am
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 am
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Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:47 am

No idea if true, but there was an article, by someone, claiming that unless labeled "Organic", it's full of really bad stuff.
A cursory search doesn't turn up much in objective evaluation, but the "Beyond" people claim to be kosher.
Does that mean that someone prayed over it?
I couldn't find the article I read, but there were others about vegan meats in general.

https://kstawinska.medium.com/7-harmful ... 3b988bfde0

https://consumerfreedom.com/2021/07/5-c ... sed-meats/

But all in all, I'm seeing little or no difference

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/ca ... sing-foods
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Thanks - not surprising there are various chemicals. I'm not sure that the amounts that would be taken in by any human in normal or expected amounts would be harmful IRL, but it certainly counters the industry's "clean plant-based..."

"It seems like it can only be labeled “plant-based” because it is made in a manufacturing plant." :lol:

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:07 pm
I couldn't find the article I read, but there were others about vegan meats in general.

https://kstawinska.medium.com/7-harmful ... 3b988bfde0

https://consumerfreedom.com/2021/07/5-c ... sed-meats/

But all in all, I'm seeing little or no difference

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/ca ... sing-foods
Thanks, excuses to not do what I didn't want to do :thumbup: . I tried an Impossible whopper, it was alright. Of course, if meat is ever priced to reflect its environmental impact - land use, water quality, energy inputs, AGW, etc - we'll all be vegetarians.
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Yep, farmed shrimp is fucked up, too. :problem:

Can technology clean up the shrimp farming business?

It's just easiest to shun all of the seafood that I love. :(
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Making some white pine soda. Let's see how it turns out

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/

One bottle I'm banking on the wild yeast, the other I added some champagne yeast.
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Whack9 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Making some white pine soda. Let's see how it turns out

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/

One bottle I'm banking on the wild yeast, the other I added some champagne yeast.
What kind of pine?

Be curious how it turns out and if you like it, the article made it sound like the best drink ever.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:52 pm
Whack9 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Making some white pine soda. Let's see how it turns out

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/

One bottle I'm banking on the wild yeast, the other I added some champagne yeast.
What kind of pine?

Be curious how it turns out and if you like it, the article made it sound like the best drink ever.
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Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:38 pm
... white pine ...

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/ ...
White Pine

Although most pine needles are edible, white pine is considered to be the best tasting one, and it’s very easy to be recognized – the only pine tree that has five needles per bundle....
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 6:50 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 5:52 pm
Whack9 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:38 pm
Making some white pine soda. Let's see how it turns out

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/

One bottle I'm banking on the wild yeast, the other I added some champagne yeast.
What kind of pine?

Be curious how it turns out and if you like it, the article made it sound like the best drink ever.
Whack9 wrote:
Mon Feb 27, 2023 4:38 pm
... white pine ...

https://msshiandmrhe.com/pine-needle-soda/ ...
White Pine



Although most pine needles are edible, white pine is considered to be the best tasting one, and it’s very easy to be recognized – the only pine tree that has five needles per bundle....
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ChatGPT says:
White Pine Soda is a carbonated soft drink that was historically made from the bark of the Eastern White Pine tree. However, modern versions of the soda typically use artificial flavors to mimic the taste of pine rather than using actual pine bark.

As for the taste, White Pine Soda does not taste like gin. It has a unique flavor that is reminiscent of pine, with a slightly sweet and herbal taste. The taste can be described as earthy, woody, and refreshing. Some people find it similar to drinking a forest, while others describe it as a mix of sarsaparilla and root beer.

It's worth noting that there are different brands of White Pine Soda and they may have slightly different taste profiles. However, in general, the soda does not taste like gin.

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ChatGPT says:
White Pine Soda is a carbonated soft drink that was historically made from the bark of the Eastern White Pine tree. However, modern versions of the soda typically use artificial flavors to mimic the taste of pine rather than using actual pine bark.

As for the taste, White Pine Soda does not taste like gin. It has a unique flavor that is reminiscent of pine, with a slightly sweet and herbal taste. The taste can be described as earthy, woody, and refreshing. Some people find it similar to drinking a forest, while others describe it as a mix of sarsaparilla and root beer.

It's worth noting that there are different brands of White Pine Soda and they may have slightly different taste profiles. However, in general, the soda does not taste like gin.
Is bark tea different from Whack9's needle tea? Has ChatGPT really ever tried either? ;)
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Is bark tea different from Whack9's needle tea? Has ChatGPT really ever tried either? ;)
ChatGPT (who will henceforward go by the name "Not Really") says:
Yes, bark tea and pine needle tea are different types of tea.

Bark tea is made from the bark of various trees such as willow, birch, and oak. The bark is typically dried and then boiled in water to extract the flavors and nutrients. The resulting tea can have a woody, earthy flavor and is often used for medicinal purposes.

Pine needle tea, on the other hand, is made from the needles of pine trees. The needles are usually gathered fresh, although they can be dried as well. The needles are steeped in hot water to extract their flavor and nutrients, and the resulting tea has a slightly sweet and piney taste. Pine needle tea is also used for medicinal purposes and is high in vitamin C.

So while both bark tea and pine needle tea are made from parts of trees and can have medicinal benefits, they are distinct from each other in terms of their flavor and the part of the tree that is used.

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O Really wrote:
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UnReally?
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