Guns, race, religion, terror, wingnut thread

[Vrede too]

Last June, a research team found an unserved arrest warrant for the woman in the 1955 lynching that was a catalyst for the civil rights movement.

The old, "But she has white kids response".

"The arrest warrant against Donham was publicized in 1955, but the Leflore County sheriff at the time told reporters that he did not want to “bother” the woman since she was raising two young children."

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/rob ... -rcna70081

You linked a Roberto Clemente book burning article. Here's one on Donham, if not the exact one you quote:

Arrest warrant for woman who accused Emmett Till found nearly 70 years later in court basement

Weird. I just tried the link. 1st try was the warrant article, 2, 3 and 4 were Clemente and 5 was the warrant

That is strange. I get Clemente x 5.

Warrant. No Clemente.

How many tries? That's . The link even reads:
latino/roberto-clemente-book-removed-florida-public-schools

[O Really]

Warrant. No Clemente.

How many tries? That's . The link even reads:
latino/roberto-clemente-book-removed-florida-public-schools

Opps. Closed browser, came back, got Clemente.

[Vrede too]

Opps. Closed browser, came back, got Clemente.

We've got more Roberto Clemente on these 2 pages than Florida public schools do.

[Vrede too]

Report: All 25 U.S. extremism-related murders last year were linked to right-wing extremists

... “I think the most surprising thing was from the 1970s through the 2000s, so that's like 40 years, there were about five extremist-related mass killing incidents a decade. That’s what the average is,” Pitcavage said. “But in just the past 12 years, we've had 26 more. We had 21 in the 2010s, and already just in 2021 and 2022 we've had five more. So the increase in these numbers has just been alarming.”

I can't recall the last lefty deadly mass attack on random civilians.

The report found that white supremacists had committed 335 domestic extremist-related murders over the past 10 years, accounting for 73% of all such murders. According to the report, 21 of the 25 murders in 2022 were linked to white supremacists, with the most victims dying in mass shootings. The report highlights a new set of beliefs arising in the ranks of some segments of the white supremacy movement, called the “accelerationist propaganda,” as contributing to some of the extreme acts of violence.

“What they argue is, and what they try to tell other white supremacists or other people is, ‘You're never gonna be able to reform society to turn it into a white supremacist society. You're never gonna be able to use the normal political and social processes to change society to the way we want it,’" Pitcavage explained. “So the only thing left to do is to actually destroy society and build a new white-supremacist-oriented society from the ashes.

“So for accelerationist white supremacists, anything that will hasten the end of society or destabilize it is actually a good thing,” he continued. “This includes mass acts of violence against innocent civilians. So they actually openly encourage those sorts of attacks and provide guidance on how to commit them.

“When people do commit those acts, like Buffalo or the El Paso shooter, they glorify them and promote them, hoping that those people will inspire even more people to follow in their footsteps and also be glorified,” Pitcavage added, referring to the 2019 shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, that left 23 dead. Patrick Crusius, who pleaded guilty, allegedly posted a manifesto with white nationalist and anti-immigrant rhetoric on the online platform 8chan about 20 minutes before the attack. (Many of the victims of his shooting were Latino.)

...The report also revealed that almost all the mass killings in 2022 (93%) were committed with firearms.

“The lack of adequate gun control is also playing a role,” Pitcavage said. “The vast majority of all of the recent mass killing incidents, all but around three, have been with firearms. You also had the Boston Marathon bombing and a couple of vehicular attacks, but a lot of them have done so with assault-style weapons like AR-15s. In the 1970s and 1980s, an extremist, if they wanted to kill a bunch of people, would think about constructing a bomb. Well, that's difficult and dangerous. But now if you want to commit mass carnage, it's easy to kill someone with an AR-15, and it doesn't require any expertise. So you have people like accelerationist white supremacists urging people to kill, and at the same time you have very deadly weapons easily available.”

“It is frankly too easy,” said Oren Segal, vice president of the ADL's Center on Extremism, “for an individual motivated by hate to purchase a weapon and enter a house of worship, an LBGTQ+ bar, a supermarket or any other public place and wreak havoc on so many lives. We cannot stand idly by and accept this as the new norm.”

But it is.

[O Really]

It is, indeed. Just saw that so far this year, 6,500 people have been killed by gun violence, with 80-something mass shootings. What we used to say somewhat darkly joking about the "shooting du jour" has been exceeded by the reality. We live in a violent society and nobody is ever going to do anything about it. It's good to be old.

[O Really]

I'm reminded something about apples and falling trees, or something like that.

(copied instead of linked so nobody has to let Faux run their ads)

Oklahoma City bombing co-conspirator Terry Nichols’ son pleaded guilty to armed robbery and kidnapping on Wednesday for an incident in Henderson, Nevada in 2020, according to reports.

The Associated Press reported that Joshua Nichols, 40, and George William Moya III, 27, took plea deals in a case from February 2020 in which the two men attacked a man in Henderson. The deal avoids having the case go to trial next month in Clark County District Court.

Police allege that in 2020, Nichols and Moya kidnapped and robbed a 67-year-old man of his money, jewelry, clothing and cellphone while he was at his home in Henderson.

[GoCubsGo]

Crabapples.

[Vrede too]

This should surprise no one:

Pentagon leaks linked to young gun enthusiast who worked at military base – report

Big U.S. intelligence leak was by gun enthusiast in 20s -Washington Post

"mutual love of guns, military gear and God,"

Including the co-conspirators that were silent for months, it's a gang of ammosexual, racist, christofascist traitors. We're seeing their hatred for America more and more often.

LOCK THEM UP!

[Vrede too]

EmptyG, who has been given so much power by SINO McCarthy, joins Tucker, Goofy Gaetz, etc, and pandering Fascist DerSantis in the pro-Putin wing of the GQP. Now, she defends treason.

Not fit for office? Brennan, Graham blast Marjorie Taylor Greene for defending Pentagon leak suspect

[O Really]

That's beyond the usual pale of stupid. One might make an argument that stealing and disclosing secret information might be defended for the "greater good" or to expose some nefarious skullduggery on the part of evil damgummint tools, but this guy was just basically stealing stuff because he could and disclosing to make himself look like a big deal. That's not defensible no matter what part of the political spectrum you're on. That's like some idiot firing off a missile on a bet just to prove he could.

[O Really]

Back in the day when I was with what is now called the "Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency", it would not have been unusual for a low ranking two-striper (like Teixeira) to have a high security clearance. In fact, you have to get clearance before you even go for training for jobs working with classified material. But the question here isn't so much whether his job gave him a clearance, but what did he have access to. Underlying principle is still "need to know" regardless of clearance. You can't just go into some place and say "don't mind me, I've got a security clearance and I'm just going to browse in the secret stuff." So one might ask what about his job as an IT tech of some sort required him to have access to that particular information, and if it didn't, what sort of huge defect in security practices let him access/steal it so easily.

[GoCubsGo]

There's something like over 1 million people with a "Top Secret" clearance but the failure to compartmentalize is mind boggling.

[O Really]

There's something like over 1 million people with a "Top Secret" clearance but the failure to compartmentalize is mind boggling.

It is, indeed.
Having a clearance really means nothing except that IF you get a job that can't be done without accessing classified information, that you're allowed to do that job and access only what is really necessary. You can't even tell somebody else with a clearance about your work unless they're involved in the same project. With advanced technology, it should be easier to tighten security rather than to make it worse, but maybe the technology gives wider access quicker. Hoono. But it needs to be fixed.

Even with the disclosures, though, I wouldn't think any US allies or adversaries would be surprised the US has a robust spying program, Even back in my day, the unit I worked with didn't have a Russian mission, but the Russians knew about us and on one occasion sent us Christmas greetings on a channel they knew we were tracking.

[GoCubsGo]

Even back in my day, the unit I worked with didn't have a Russian mission, but the Russians knew about us and on one occasion sent us Christmas greetings on a channel they knew we were tracking.

LOL

Guessing 90%+ of the spy game is just that.

[Vrede too]

There's something like over 1 million people with a "Top Secret" clearance but the failure to compartmentalize is mind boggling.

It is, indeed.
Having a clearance really means nothing except that IF you get a job that can't be done without accessing classified information, that you're allowed to do that job and access only what is really necessary. You can't even tell somebody else with a clearance about your work unless they're involved in the same project. With advanced technology, it should be easier to tighten security rather than to make it worse, but maybe the technology gives wider access quicker. Hoono. But it needs to be fixed.

Whack9 and banni know better than me, but I'm guessing the latter, that it's difficult to build effective walls separating everything. Plus, those wall have to be built by some other 21 year old that's able to peek at everything he's separating.

Even with the disclosures, though, I wouldn't think any US allies or adversaries would be surprised the US has a robust spying program, Even back in my day, the unit I worked with didn't have a Russian mission, but the Russians knew about us and on one occasion sent us Christmas greetings on a channel they knew we were tracking.

I haven't followed everything, but I've heard more griping about content than the fact of the spying. If anyone was unaware, Snowden let that cat out of the bag.
Russia got dissed - who cares?
Ukraine got dissed - folks are saying dated info, which may or may not be true.
Egypt got exposed - Opps.
Not sure if any of the other nations have been shamed.

There is an ex-US military, actively pro-Putin woman that was spreading some of the docs - interesting twist.

[O Really]

LOL

Guessing 90%+ of the spy game is just that.

Yeah, these particular Russians thought nobody would notice the 20 antennas all over their "fishing boat."

[GoCubsGo]

LOL

Guessing 90%+ of the spy game is just that.

Yeah, these particular Russians thought nobody would notice the 20 antennas all over their "fishing boat."

It's like the Chinese spy ballon.

Are open secrets really secrets anymore and have value?

We know that you know that we know......

[neoplacebo]

Get out the snakes and the poison! Over 250 churches in east TN leave the United Methodist Church (UMC, which I've always known to be "upper middle class" in accord with the old Bob Seger song).....but anyway, these churches have decided to break away from the mainstream and become what I consider the harbinger of Christian sharia law hereabouts. Those fuckers are not going to like me one bit. And the goddamn feeling will be mutual.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-nationa ... p_deeplink
And here's UMC if you never heard it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWAAgN2-k8

[Vrede too]

Get out the snakes and the poison! Over 250 churches in east TN leave the United Methodist Church (UMC, which I've always known to be "upper middle class" in accord with the old Bob Seger song).....but anyway, these churches have decided to break away from the mainstream and become what I consider the harbinger of Christian sharia law hereabouts. Those fuckers are not going to like me one bit. And the goddamn feeling will be mutual.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/amid-nationa ... p_deeplink
And here's UMC if you never heard it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWAAgN2-k8

I'm sure that it's distressing for the UMC, but it's not like these rebels' views have suddenly changed and it can be useful to ID where the christofascists are concentrated.

[billy.pilgrim]

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/contr ... ed-2297547

"A controversial painting by the artist Miriam Cahn was vandalized yesterday, May 7, at Paris’s Palais de Tokyo.

Around 3:30 pm, a museum visitor removed a can of purple spray paint hidden in a medicine bottle and defaced the Swiss artist’s canvas. In a statement to Agence France-Presse, the Palais de Tokyo described the vandal as an “elderly man” who acted independently. He was apprehended by security agents and"
Oops there's that end of story and "and"

The old man was "removed from the premises by police."

Did they rough him up before throwing him in a lightness dungeon, or give him a ride home? Something in between?
I guess I wanted more gossip. It's the merican in me. Besides, they did tell us the news about the painting. It will be returning to display work immediately.

Of course they have wingnuts too
"Cahn’s painting has been mired in French news cycles for the last two months. In March, a group of six conservative organizations led by the Association Juristes Pour L’Enfance (Lawyers for Childhood) filed a lawsuit against the Palais de Tokyo. They alleged that, by showing the artwork, the museum violated the French law against exhibiting pornographic representations of minors.

But an administrative judge promptly threw out the case , ruling that Cahn’s painting refers to crimes committed in Bucha, Ukraine, and “cannot be understood outside of its context.”"

Therefore all these celebrity personalities have to do is portray everything outside of its intended context to focus hate as needed.
republicans are always so far sighted about themselves. This creation of a manipulative media started in the late 60s with one man's dream and the world's nightmare.
Make nixon look like a person - ailes
Sent out propaganda tapes with scrip for the local guy so the small time tv stations everywhere could have "correspondents" everywhere. - ailes

Four of the plaintiffs subsequently appealed the decision in Frances’s Council of State, but that case, too, was dismissed.
The debate around Cahn’s painting, fueled largely by far-right media personalities on TV and online"'

They will destroy the world, all the while believing that they can save the parts they need and enjoy - once and for all proving that republicans are missing an Irony gene.