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#9 is 'Bama. Sorry, billie's ghost.
#10 is Miami :clap: . Congrats O Really, by the skin of your teeth.
Notre Dame is pissed off over these 2 selections. I would have preferred it over 'Bama.

Notre Dame is blaming the ACC despite its football program never joining the ACC, no doubt a big money saver.

Notre Dame AD rips ACC, saying 'permanent damage' has been done

Then, the Big 12 commish sticks his nose into it.

Big 12's Brett Yormark calls out Notre Dame's Pete Bevacqua

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Wed Dec 10, 2025 10:54 am
Vrede too wrote:
Sun Dec 07, 2025 12:58 pm

#9 is 'Bama. Sorry, billie's ghost.
#10 is Miami :clap: . Congrats O Really, by the skin of your teeth.
Notre Dame is pissed off over these 2 selections. I would have preferred it over 'Bama.

Notre Dame is blaming the ACC despite its football program never joining the ACC, no doubt a big money saver.

Notre Dame AD rips ACC, saying 'permanent damage' has been done

Then, the Big 12 commish sticks his nose into it.

Big 12's Brett Yormark calls out Notre Dame's Pete Bevacqua

:crazy: :crazy:
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]No tears from me abut ND. The whining by the ND AD for promoting Miami over ND is ludicrous. ND had their chance to become a full ACC member and they chose not to.

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Fired Michigan coach Moore in custody, suspect in alleged assault

Sherrone Moore was in custody in the Washtenaw (Michigan) County Jail on Wednesday night as a suspect in an alleged assault, just hours after he was fired as Michigan's football coach for having what the school said was an "inappropriate relationship with a staff member." ...
Amazing, Michigan managed to hire a worse person than Jim Harbaugh. :wtf:
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It's hard to totally trash one's life any faster than that.
Head coach at one of the best jobs in the country
$5.5+ mill per year
Somewhat adoring fans, at least on winning days
Nice family - wife, kids
All gone in a poof.

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It's hard to totally trash one's life any faster than that.
Head coach at one of the best jobs in the country
$5.5+ mill per year
Somewhat adoring fans, at least on winning days
Nice family - wife, kids
All gone in a poof.
It was a blonde :roll: .

Sherrone Moore’s Wife and Alleged Mistress Were Following Each Other on Instagram Amid Rumored Affair

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Sherrone Moore With His Wife and Paige Shiver
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So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again. I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.

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So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again. I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
There is still the unanswered question as to why he was arrested?

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O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again. I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
There is still the unanswered question as to why he was arrested?
Apparently got into an unrelated altercation and is charged with assault. No real details, though.

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Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:15 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 2:15 pm
O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again. I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
There is still the unanswered question as to why he was arrested?
Apparently got into an unrelated altercation and is charged with assault. No real details, though.
Talk about self destruction.

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Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again.
Looks like you got some facts wrong.
Sherrone Moore's Alleged Mistress Reportedly Received Massive Pay Raise In 2025
Public records show the alleged staffer at the center of the former Michigan coach's alleged inappropriate relationship received a 70 percent salary bump in 2025.


... The individual allegedly linked to Moore, whose LinkedIn profile lists her as an Executive Assistant to the Head Football Coach at the University of Michigan, earned just over $58,000 in 2023 and 2024, according to public payroll information.
Directly "in Moore's line of command".
In the 2025 fiscal year, though, her salary jumped to $99,000, according to a salary disclosure report from the University of Michigan.

That's a 70.62 percent increase year-over-year — even higher than the figure circulating social media right now via UMSalary.info.
A financially rewarded affair justifies more than "a trip to the woodshed". It's almost in-house prostitution. :o
O Really wrote:I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
Could still be.

2023
HC for 3 games during Harbaugh's sign-stealing suspension. Otherwise OC for UM's undefeated Championship season.

2024
... In November 2024, Moore secured a commitment from the No. 1 overall ranked high school recruit in the nation, quarterback Bryce Underwood, in his first recruiting class as a head coach.

In Moore’s first season, he led the Michigan Wolverines to an 8–5 record on the year, including wins over Michigan State, Ohio State and Alabama. Moore was the first Michigan head coach since Bennie Oosterbaan in 1948 to defeat Michigan State in his first year.

In the regular season finale against the No. 2 ranked Buckeyes, Moore led Michigan to a 13–10 upset victory at Ohio Stadium, despite entering as 20.5 point underdogs. It marked the fourth consecutive victory for Michigan in the Ohio State series, extending their first win streak in the series in the 21st century. On December 31, 2024, Moore won his first postseason game in the ReliaQuest Bowl, as Michigan defeated No. 11 Alabama, 19-13, after entering as 16.5 point underdogs. Michigan became the only program in college football history to beat Alabama twice in the same calendar year (also winning the 2024 Rose Bowl), and the first team since 1978 to win back-to-back games as double digit underdogs.
2025
On May 5, 2025, it was revealed that Moore was expected to be suspended by the University of Michigan for the third and fourth games of the 2025 season as the sign stealing investigation continued.... In Moore’s second season, the Wolverines finished the regular season with a 9–3 record, 7–2 in the Big Ten to finish in a tie for fourth place.... In the final week of the regular season, Michigan was ranked No. 15 with a chance to earn a CFP berth before losing at home to No. 1 Ohio State, 27–9. It was Moore's first loss in the rivalry in his three games as the head coach, and Michigan's first loss to Ohio State since 2019.
Not terrible at all, but expectations are high there. Could also be other reasons he's disliked, I saw a headline somewhere that he was worried about it.
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Apparently got into an unrelated altercation and is charged with assault. No real details, though.
Less than an hour after he was fired. I'll bet it was related.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:47 am
O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again.
Looks like you got some facts wrong.
Sherrone Moore's Alleged Mistress Reportedly Received Massive Pay Raise In 2025
Public records show the alleged staffer at the center of the former Michigan coach's alleged inappropriate relationship received a 70 percent salary bump in 2025.


... The individual allegedly linked to Moore, whose LinkedIn profile lists her as an Executive Assistant to the Head Football Coach at the University of Michigan, earned just over $58,000 in 2023 and 2024, according to public payroll information.
Directly "in Moore's line of command".
In the 2025 fiscal year, though, her salary jumped to $99,000, according to a salary disclosure report from the University of Michigan.

That's a 70.62 percent increase year-over-year — even higher than the figure circulating social media right now via UMSalary.info.
A financially rewarded affair justifies more than "a trip to the woodshed". It's almost in-house prostitution. :o
O Really wrote:I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
Could still be.

2023
HC for 3 games during Harbaugh's sign-stealing suspension. Otherwise OC for UM's undefeated Championship season.

2024
... In November 2024, Moore secured a commitment from the No. 1 overall ranked high school recruit in the nation, quarterback Bryce Underwood, in his first recruiting class as a head coach.

In Moore’s first season, he led the Michigan Wolverines to an 8–5 record on the year, including wins over Michigan State, Ohio State and Alabama. Moore was the first Michigan head coach since Bennie Oosterbaan in 1948 to defeat Michigan State in his first year.

In the regular season finale against the No. 2 ranked Buckeyes, Moore led Michigan to a 13–10 upset victory at Ohio Stadium, despite entering as 20.5 point underdogs. It marked the fourth consecutive victory for Michigan in the Ohio State series, extending their first win streak in the series in the 21st century. On December 31, 2024, Moore won his first postseason game in the ReliaQuest Bowl, as Michigan defeated No. 11 Alabama, 19-13, after entering as 16.5 point underdogs. Michigan became the only program in college football history to beat Alabama twice in the same calendar year (also winning the 2024 Rose Bowl), and the first team since 1978 to win back-to-back games as double digit underdogs.
2025
On May 5, 2025, it was revealed that Moore was expected to be suspended by the University of Michigan for the third and fourth games of the 2025 season as the sign stealing investigation continued.... In Moore’s second season, the Wolverines finished the regular season with a 9–3 record, 7–2 in the Big Ten to finish in a tie for fourth place.... In the final week of the regular season, Michigan was ranked No. 15 with a chance to earn a CFP berth before losing at home to No. 1 Ohio State, 27–9. It was Moore's first loss in the rivalry in his three games as the head coach, and Michigan's first loss to Ohio State since 2019.
Not terrible at all, but expectations are high there. Could also be other reasons he's disliked, I saw a headline somewhere that he was worried about it.
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Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:15 pm
Apparently got into an unrelated altercation and is charged with assault. No real details, though.
Less than an hour after he was fired. I'll bet it was related.
"Directly "in Moore's line of command".

This is not uncommon in the business world. Once worked with a Regional VP who put a "personal assistant" on his staff. The staff was well aware of what was going on,but in my world Regional VP's wielded a good bit of influence. Higher ups finally figured it out and he was dismissed.

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9:00 PM ESPN
Go @Montana State (-10.5) > Stephen F. Austin
43F at kickoff, not much of a weather advantage.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:47 am
O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again.
Looks like you got some facts wrong.
I would say so.
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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 8:50 am
Vrede too wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:47 am
O Really wrote:
Thu Dec 11, 2025 1:10 pm
So Shiver is a 30 year old apparently not in Moore's line of command, not to condone the affair but it sounds like it would have been better for everybody, including the school, to have handled it with a trip to the woodshed and a don't do it again.
Looks like you got some facts wrong.
Sherrone Moore's Alleged Mistress Reportedly Received Massive Pay Raise In 2025
Public records show the alleged staffer at the center of the former Michigan coach's alleged inappropriate relationship received a 70 percent salary bump in 2025.


... The individual allegedly linked to Moore, whose LinkedIn profile lists her as an Executive Assistant to the Head Football Coach at the University of Michigan, earned just over $58,000 in 2023 and 2024, according to public payroll information.
Directly "in Moore's line of command".
In the 2025 fiscal year, though, her salary jumped to $99,000, according to a salary disclosure report from the University of Michigan.

That's a 70.62 percent increase year-over-year — even higher than the figure circulating social media right now via UMSalary.info.
A financially rewarded affair justifies more than "a trip to the woodshed". It's almost in-house prostitution. :o
O Really wrote:I'm suspecting Moore's dumping had more to do with his coaching performance.
Could still be.

2023
HC for 3 games during Harbaugh's sign-stealing suspension. Otherwise OC for UM's undefeated Championship season.

2024
... In November 2024, Moore secured a commitment from the No. 1 overall ranked high school recruit in the nation, quarterback Bryce Underwood, in his first recruiting class as a head coach.

In Moore’s first season, he led the Michigan Wolverines to an 8–5 record on the year, including wins over Michigan State, Ohio State and Alabama. Moore was the first Michigan head coach since Bennie Oosterbaan in 1948 to defeat Michigan State in his first year.

In the regular season finale against the No. 2 ranked Buckeyes, Moore led Michigan to a 13–10 upset victory at Ohio Stadium, despite entering as 20.5 point underdogs. It marked the fourth consecutive victory for Michigan in the Ohio State series, extending their first win streak in the series in the 21st century. On December 31, 2024, Moore won his first postseason game in the ReliaQuest Bowl, as Michigan defeated No. 11 Alabama, 19-13, after entering as 16.5 point underdogs. Michigan became the only program in college football history to beat Alabama twice in the same calendar year (also winning the 2024 Rose Bowl), and the first team since 1978 to win back-to-back games as double digit underdogs.
2025
On May 5, 2025, it was revealed that Moore was expected to be suspended by the University of Michigan for the third and fourth games of the 2025 season as the sign stealing investigation continued.... In Moore’s second season, the Wolverines finished the regular season with a 9–3 record, 7–2 in the Big Ten to finish in a tie for fourth place.... In the final week of the regular season, Michigan was ranked No. 15 with a chance to earn a CFP berth before losing at home to No. 1 Ohio State, 27–9. It was Moore's first loss in the rivalry in his three games as the head coach, and Michigan's first loss to Ohio State since 2019.
Not terrible at all, but expectations are high there. Could also be other reasons he's disliked, I saw a headline somewhere that he was worried about it.
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Thu Dec 11, 2025 3:15 pm
Apparently got into an unrelated altercation and is charged with assault. No real details, though.
Less than an hour after he was fired. I'll bet it was related.
"Directly "in Moore's line of command".

This is not uncommon in the business world. Once worked with a Regional VP who put a "personal assistant" on his staff. The staff was well aware of what was going on,but in my world Regional VP's wielded a good bit of influence. Higher ups finally figured it out and he was dismissed.
I wonder what will happen to the employee now? Was she a good and beneficial asset to the athletic department? Of course, her judgement is in question as well.

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Usually everybody standing close to a scandal gets splattered, no matter their degree of guilt. Everywhere I worked up until maybe late 80's, workplace romances were pretty much a norm. Then came the harassment suits and before long most people were afraid to say "pretty sweater, Jennifer" without adding "no offence." Of course, back then alcohol at lunch wasn't taboo and company holiday parties sometimes got people fired but were certainly not dull staid affairs.

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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:26 am
9:00 PM ESPN
Go @Montana State (-10.5) > Stephen F. Austin
43F at kickoff, not much of a weather advantage.
GoBobcatsGo!
Justin Lamson is the Montana State QB. This year's stats coming into this game:
204/284 CMP% 71.8! 2,437 YDS 8.6 AVG, 20 TD! 2 INT! LNG 79, SACK 25 RTG 165.7!
142 CAR 645 YDS 4.5 AVG, 11 TD! LNG 48

:clap: Heisman numbers if he played in the BCS.

EDIT: Add another pass TD. 14-0 at the start of the 2nd.
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Fri Dec 12, 2025 9:26 am
9:00 PM ESPN
Go @2 Montana State (-10.5) > 7 Stephen F. Austin
43F at kickoff, not much of a weather advantage.
GoBobcatsGo!
44-28 :clap: 1-0 for the week.
Montana State is in the semis. :thumbup:

FCS Championship - Quarterfinals

12:00 PM ESPN
12 Villanova vs @4 Tarleton State (-8.5). Go football!
Currently 12-14 at Halftime. I want the winner to lose to the winner of the Illinois State - UC Davis game in the semi.
26-21 UPSET! Villanova and Illinois State are Cinderellas.

3:30 PM ABC
@3 Montana (-7.5) > 11 South Dakota
Dakota teams are dangerous.
If Montana wins it plays @Montana State in the 12/20 semi, guaranteeing a Montana team in the Final :clap: . @Montana lost to Montana State 28-31 on 11/22.
24-7 at the half. :thumbup:
Start of 3rd: UM defensive stand, 93 yard punt return without penalties, 31-7! :clap:
52-22 final. All MT Semi, GoGrizGo!

2-0 for the weekend. :thumbup:


5:00 PM ESPN+ :x :x
Illinois State vs @8 UC Davis (-3.5). Go football!
I was going to root for UC Davis, but just noticed that unseeded Illinois State beat tournament favorite and perennial champs @1 North Dakota St 29-28 last week. They're heroes!
21-17 in the 1st quarter, 0 points in the 2nd. :crazy:
42-31. It's a Cinderella semi! Go ISU Redbirds > @Villanova.


ALSO:
Celebration Bowl (HBCU Championship)
SC St 40, Prairie View A&M (-2.5, Prairie View, TX) 38 4OT!!! :shock:
SC St came back from 0-21 to force OT at 35-35 (no FGs!), biggest comeback in Celebration Bowl history. Very exciting.
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Justin Lamson is the Montana State QB. This year's stats coming into this game:
204/284 CMP% 71.8! 2,437 YDS 8.6 AVG, 20 TD! 2 INT! LNG 79, SACK 25 RTG 165.7!
142 CAR 645 YDS 4.5 AVG, 11 TD! LNG 48

:clap: Heisman numbers if he played in the BCS.

EDIT: Add another pass TD. 14-0 at the start of the 2nd.
EDIT: Make it 2 more pass TDs and a rush TD for the game.
Montana's QB, Hawaiian Keali'iAh Yat has also put up impressive numbers. Coming into today's game this year:
277/398 CMP% 69.6! 3,514 YDS! 8.8 AVG, 29 TD! 8 INT LNG 76 SACK 21 RTG 163.8!
Rush numbers not impressive.
Add 3 passing TDs. :-|| :-|| :-||
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8:00 PM ABC, LA Bowl
Go @Washington (-9.5) > "Bluefield" Boise State. GoLady OGo
38-10 :---P 3-0 :thumbup:
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8:30 PM ESPN, Mobile, AL
Mediocre Bowl :|
Delaware (6-6) > Louisiana (6-6, -3)
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