College football

[O Really]

Thanks. Hence, the right has forced "right to work" and "at will" employment states upon nurses like me and tens of millions of other Americans.

Well, sorta. "Right to work" is anti-union and a misnomer, but all it means is that in a RTW state, you can't be required to join or pay union dues even if you work in a unionized company. It's a mechanism to reduce funding to unions and to stir up antagonism between the union members (who pay for all the good stuff the non-joiners enjoy) and the non-joiners, sometimes referred to as deadbeat slugs or worse.

"At Will" has very little impact in real life because the rest of it goes "an employer may terminate an employee for any or no reason as long as it isn't an illegal reason." So sure, your employer can fire you because he doesn't like your ratty car in the lot or just because he doesn't like you. But you're going to go to your lawyer and say that's bullshit. He didn't fire me for that, he fired me because I'm Black/female/old/union organizer, yada. Then the employer will have to justify the firing in a way that's believable. No federal/state agency or jury is ever going to believe the employer who stands up there and says "yeah, he was a good worker, good attendance, good performance, employees and patients liked him, but I got sick of that ratty car in the lot." Or "I just woke up and decided to fire him just because I can"

[Vrede too]

I understand the difference, but "right to work (right to be screwed)" makes "at will" employment far more likely for groups like nurses who would otherwise be organized. I think you underestimate the impact. Since I wasn't a union organizer or that old I never belonged to a protected group. In the end I resigned but was de facto fired for refusing to wear white scrub tops. A union likely would have prevented such a demeaning and stupid uniform choice. Then, there's the chilling effect of "at will" employment that never lands on the desks of lawyers like you were. We all knew that we were at the mercy of bosses' whims.

[GoCubsGo]

Not bad!

Could the new HC have been unaware of the hazing? Maybe if he's more Braun than brains GoPussiesGo!

You're still paying more attention than me.

Might be time to start.

[O Really]

You know your truth, and I don't think I ever personally worked for a hospital where either the nurses weren't union or the hospital was perpetually short of nursing staff and probably wouldn't fire one for taking a dump on the director's desk. But certainly there are probably more that would be similar to your experience. But still, if an employee really is fired for "no reason' or some bogus reason, all they have to do is claim it was for some unlawful reason and the employer has to justify its action. Possibly you reported or complained about safety issues. Possibly you spoke with some of your colleagues about your pay, hospitals are notorious for confusing exempt and non-exempt nurses and botching overtime. If you're over 40 you can claim age discrimination and even though you'd lose, you'd still force the employer to defend your firing with something. Of course, if they had a standing rule on white tops and enforced it consistently, then the termination really isn't for no reason. A rule doesn't have to be reasonable, just publicized and enforced.

[Vrede too]

Not bad!

Could the new HC have been unaware of the hazing? Maybe if he's more Braun than brains GoPussiesGo!

You're still paying more attention than me.

Might be time to start.

Not intentionally, I just saw the article listed in ESPN's sidebar.

[Vrede too]

You know your truth, and I don't think I ever personally worked for a hospital where either the nurses weren't union or the hospital was perpetually short of nursing staff and probably wouldn't fire one for taking a dump on the director's desk. But certainly there are probably more that would be similar to your experience. But still, if an employee really is fired for "no reason' or some bogus reason, all they have to do is claim it was for some unlawful reason and the employer has to justify its action. Possibly you reported or complained about safety issues. Possibly you spoke with some of your colleagues about your pay, hospitals are notorious for confusing exempt and non-exempt nurses and botching overtime. If you're over 40 you can claim age discrimination and even though you'd lose, you'd still force the employer to defend your firing with something. Of course, if they had a standing rule on white tops and enforced it consistently, then the termination really isn't for no reason. A rule doesn't have to be reasonable, just publicized and enforced.

I might have been unclear. Getting "fired" (allowed to resign) for deliberately flaunting the white top rule wasn't termination "for no reason." In fact, my sympathetic bosses let me skate for months. I'm sure that jealous coworkers eventually complained, as was their right. Rather, I think having a union to represent us would have prevented the unpopular white tops from ever becoming the rule.

Ftr, this was an example of disctatorial Mission "Healthcare" being fucked up even before HCA.
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[O Really]

The term "constructive discharge" comes to mind.

[Vrede too]

The term "constructive discharge" comes to mind.

I involuntarily but unabashedly became a disruptive influence. Of course, I was somewhat ready to retire and this was "the hill" I chose to go out defending.

[billy.pilgrim]

Everybody’s salary
#1 - #5
Nick
Daboo
Kirby
Ryan Day
Mel Tucker

Jimbo checks in at #7


https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... ball/coach

[O Really]

Not sure there's all that much correlation between coach pay and team success. Seems likely DeBoer (WA 10-0, #44 pay) could sit in Nick or Daboo seat with the same players and do as well.

[Vrede too]

Everybody’s salary
#1 - #5
Nick
Daboo
Kirby
Ryan Day
Mel Tucker

Jimbo checks in at #7

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... ball/coach

3 Kirby Smart Georgia SEC
Total Pay $10,705,600
Maximum Bonus $1,525,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $92,625,000 - Highest in NCAA

12 Jim Harbaugh Michigan Big Ten
Total Pay $8,254,600 - Cheating is lucrative
Maximum Bonus $3,275,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $27,236,892

20 Hugh Freeze Auburn SEC
Total Pay $6,500,000
Maximum Bonus $3,300,000 - Highest in NCAA
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $25,187,500 - Some people never learn

34 Mike Locksley Maryland Big Ten
Total Pay $5,500,000 - 6-4, 4th in Big Ten - East, Unranked
Maximum Bonus $1,525,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $16,547,917

36 Mack Brown North Carolina ACC
Total Pay $5,000,000 - 8-2, 3rd in ACC, #20
Maximum Bonus $1,000,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $2,812,500

78 Brady Hoke San Diego State MWC
Total Pay $1,273,100 - 3-7, 11th in Mountain West
Maximum Bonus $730,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $4,861,942

88 Shawn Clark Appalachian State Sun Belt
$925,020 - 6-4, 3rd in Sun Belt - East
Maximum Bonus $455,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $3,000,000

Mike Elko Duke ACC - No data

[O Really]

BTW, Hoke is out at SDSU. "Retiring" but perhaps with a gentle boot in the ass.

[Vrede too]

7:00 PM ESPN
Boston College (6-4, 3-3 ACC) vs @Pittsburgh (2-8, 1-5 ACC, -3.0 )
Go football!

BTW, Hoke is out at SDSU. "Retiring" but perhaps with a gentle boot in the ass.

I assume that cancels the $5M buyout?

[O Really]

7:00 PM ESPN
Boston College (6-4, 3-3 ACC) vs @Pittsburgh (2-8, 1-5 ACC, -3.0 )
Go football!

BTW, Hoke is out at SDSU. "Retiring" but perhaps with a gentle boot in the ass.

I assume that cancels the $5M buyout?

Dunno, it's consistently being reported as "retirement" but he did have three years left so I doubt he's leaving without some lovely parting gifts. Looks like both he and the school just want to handle it with a bit of grace. Pretty decent considering his record this year.

[billy.pilgrim]

Everybody’s salary
#1 - #5
Nick
Daboo
Kirby
Ryan Day
Mel Tucker

Jimbo checks in at #7

https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salari ... ball/coach

3 Kirby Smart Georgia SEC
Total Pay $10,705,600
Maximum Bonus $1,525,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $92,625,000 - Highest in NCAA

12 Jim Harbaugh Michigan Big Ten
Total Pay $8,254,600 - Cheating is lucrative
Maximum Bonus $3,275,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $27,236,892

20 Hugh Freeze Auburn SEC
Total Pay $6,500,000
Maximum Bonus $3,300,000 - Highest in NCAA
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $25,187,500 - Some people never learn

34 Mike Locksley Maryland Big Ten
Total Pay $5,500,000 - 6-4, 4th in Big Ten - East, Unranked
Maximum Bonus $1,525,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $16,547,917

36 Mack Brown North Carolina ACC
Total Pay $5,000,000 - 8-2, 3rd in ACC, #20
Maximum Bonus $1,000,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $2,812,500

78 Brady Hoke San Diego State MWC
Total Pay $1,273,100 - 3-7, 11th in Mountain West
Maximum Bonus $730,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $4,861,942

88 Shawn Clark Appalachian State Sun Belt
$925,020 - 6-4, 3rd in Sun Belt - East
Maximum Bonus $455,000
School Buyout as of 12/1/2023 $3,000,000

Mike Elko Duke ACC - No data

Correction
Everybody’s salaries except for the private schools that choose to keep their deals private.

Is Northwestern on the list?

[Vrede too]

Correction
Everybody’s salaries except for the private schools that choose to keep their deals private.

Is Northwestern on the list?

I didn't mention it since the coach was fired 6 weeks ago over hazing and the interim HC wasn't made permanent until this week, but it's there, sort of:

David Braun Northwestern Big Ten - No data. It is private like Duke, so might never share the figures.

Several of the 'No data' schools are public

[Vrede too]

7:00 PM ESPN
Boston College (6-4, 3-3 ACC) vs @Pittsburgh (2-8, 1-5 ACC, -3.0 )
Go football!

Huh, 16-24, Vegas was correct.

[Vrede too]

9:00 PM ESPN2
South Florida > @UTSA (-15.5). A loss won't count in my tally.

10:30 PM FS1
Colorado (4-6) > @Washington State (4-6, -4.0)
I like CO and I applaud WSU's loyalty. This game will end one team's Bowl hopes . CO is likely to lose next week @22 Utah. However, WSU is certain to lose @5 WA. So, go Buffaloes.

[Vrede too]

Saturday, November 18, 2023

3:30 PM BIG12|ESPN+
Baylor vs @TCU (-13.0)
Go football, it's a good day when RW TX god loses.

GO:

12:00 PM FOX
Bowl eligible @Maryland > 3 Michigan (-19.5 )
A loss won't count in my tally.

ESPN+/SECN+
FCS Chattanooga Mocs (once Moccasins) > @8 Alabama (no line )
A loss won't count in my tally, but GoMocsGo, stem that Tide!

ABC
10 Louisville > @Miami (-1.0 )
Nothing against the Bowl eligible 'Canes, O Really, but I'd like the Cardinals great season to continue. Sorry.

FS1
Bowl eligible Rutgers > @12 Penn State (-20.5)
A loss won't count in my tally.

SECN
UL Monroe (2-8, 7th in Sun Belt-West) > @13 Ole Miss (-37.5 )
Again, a loss won't count in my tally.

BTN
@Northwestern (5-5) > Purdue (3-7, -3.0)
GoPussiesGo, get a Bowl and make it 6 straight with the new coach.

ESPNN(?)/ESPN+
East Carolina > @Navy (-3.0). Torpedo them!

ESPN2
@Memphis > SMU (-9.0). NoTX godNo

1:00 PM ESPN+
Massachusetts (3-7) > Liberty (10-0, -27.5)
End the streak, NoRW godNo! A loss won't count in my tally.

2:00 PM ESPN+
@Charlotte > Rice (-2.5)

ESPN+
Bowl eligible Appalachian State (6-4) > @James Madison (10-0, -10.0)

No TV?
Hawai'i > @Wyoming (-13.0)

2:30 PM PAC12
@17 Arizona (-1.0) > 22 Utah. Knock it out of the Rankings!

3:00 PM

CW NETWORK
Bowl eligible Duke (-3.5) > @Virginia. GoBlue DevilsGo!

ESPN+
Temple > UAB (-7.5)

3:30 PM

CBS
@18 Tennessee > 1 Georgia (-10.0). Could happen, GoVolsGo!

ESPN
20 North Carolina > Clemson (-7.5). Shame those Pussies!

ABC
Bowl eligible UCLA > USC (-6.0)

ACCN
NC State > @Virginia Tech (-2.5)

CBSSN
UNLV > @Air Force (-3.0)

4:00 PM

BTN
Minnesota (5-5) > @2 Ohio State (10-0, -27.5 )
Get a Bowl! A loss won't count in my tally.

FOX
6 Oregon (-24.5) > @Arizona State
GoDucksGo, a win won't count in my tally.

5:00 PM FS2
UCF (5-5) > @Texas Tech (5-5, -2.5). Get that Bowl, Mickey.

6:30 PM

CW NETWORK
FCS North Alabama > @4 Florida State (no line)
A loss won't count in my tally.

PAC12
Bowl hopeful California (4-6, -7.0) > @Stanford (3-7)

7:30 PM

ABC
5 Washington (10-0) > @Loyal 11 Oregon State (8-2, -1.0)
Sorry, Beavers.

ESPNU
Bowl hopeful Florida International > @Arkansas (-29.5)
Panthers slay Swine. A loss won't count in my tally.

NBC
@Wisconsin (5-5, -6.0) > Nebraska (5-5). Get that Bowl, Badgers!

10:30 PM CBSSN
Bowl ineligible San Diego State (3-7) > @San José State (5-5, -14.5)
Go O Really Go! A loss won't count in my tally.

[O Really]

Somebody, and it might have been me, said:

Not everybody is going to like a braggart like Neon Dion, but he is what he is, and has been since getting to FSU. Difference though in a "sham" like the article painted is that he has delivered on his boasts everywhere he's been.

Somebody might like to reconsider.