What is a Coup?
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What is a Coup?
According to the Oxford English Dictionary a "Coup" is : "A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
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but is it still a coup if we support it?bannination wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pmAccording to the Oxford English Dictionary a "Coup" is : "A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/corpo ... -its-name/
we appear to have had a double standard for some time now
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when did we perform our first example of this double standard definition of coup
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
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There was similar obfuscation with the Obama-Hillary abetted 2009 Honduran coup d'état, a tragedy that persists to today and that has contributed to the flood of asylum seekers here.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:25 ambut is it still a coup if we support it?bannination wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pmAccording to the Oxford English Dictionary a "Coup" is : "A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/corpo ... -its-name/
we appear to have had a double standard for some time now
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when did we perform our first example of this double standard definition of coup
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
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Yeah, we have supported for and supported against openly and covertly any number of coups and uncoups over the years.Vrede too wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:02 amThere was similar obfuscation with the Obama-Hillary abetted 2009 Honduran coup d'état, a tragedy that persists to today and that has contributed to the flood of asylum seekers here.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:25 ambut is it still a coup if we support it?bannination wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pmAccording to the Oxford English Dictionary a "Coup" is : "A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/corpo ... -its-name/
we appear to have had a double standard for some time now
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when did we perform our first example of this double standard definition of coup
Truman's claiming that France was a victim in its claim over Vietnam and cheerleading our support against an oppressed country trying to establish their democracy
and Ike promoting the South to start a hostile war after a unification treaty was signed was a takeover of the newly unified country.
And we started way earlier in central and south America
What was our first support of a bad guy takeover of a country?
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
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Christopher Columbus, Mayflower, Monroe Doctrine, Texas? It depends a bit on your definitions of "our", "first", "bad guy" and "takeover", but imperialism is as American as cherry pie.billy.pilgrim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:29 am... What was our first support of a bad guy takeover of a country?
Here are some googled articles:
United States involvement in regime change
United States involvement in regime change in Latin America
35 countries where the U.S. has supported fascists, drug lords and terrorists
As the situation in Ukraine continues to fester, a handy history guide -- from A (Argentina) to Z (Zaire)
Mapped: The 7 Governments the U.S. Has Overthrown
Yes, we now have confirmation that the CIA was behind Iran's 1953 coup. But the agency hardly stopped there.
The U.S. Role In The Honduras Coup And Subsequent Violence
A number of U.S. officials — most notably then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton — played an important role in preventing Zelaya’s return to office and the junta consolidating its power in the face of massive nonviolent protests.
Cold War coups and proxy wars
We suck.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
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Top Bolivian coup plotters trained by US military’s School of the Americas, served as attachés in FBI police programsbilly.pilgrim wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:25 ambut is it still a coup if we support it?bannination wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:44 pmAccording to the Oxford English Dictionary a "Coup" is : "A sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government."
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/corpo ... -its-name/
we appear to have had a double standard for some time now ...
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"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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A loving murmur.
1/2 of a wide-ranging medium-sized bird.
1/4 of a refrain from “I Am the Walrus" and “Mrs. Robinson".
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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Another factor in the Bolivian coup, as always in Latin America and many other parts of the developing world, foreign resource extraction companies:
The Coup in Bolivia Has Everything to Do With the Screen You’re Using to Read This
The Coup in Bolivia Has Everything to Do With the Screen You’re Using to Read This
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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My first experience with a coup was the one we paid for in Chile with General Pinochet leading the way. This was also during the Vietnam misadventure and when I first began to seriously doubt what and why America was doing what it was doing. And our country has never looked back but instead generally doubled down on stupid shit presented as something else.
And then there's the concept of how American Indians would "count coup" in small victories (white settlers called them massacres) over the invaders of their lands and turn those small victories into stories of bravery to be passed down within the tribe and to others. As time passed and white surpassed, coup became elusive.
And then there's the concept of how American Indians would "count coup" in small victories (white settlers called them massacres) over the invaders of their lands and turn those small victories into stories of bravery to be passed down within the tribe and to others. As time passed and white surpassed, coup became elusive.
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Not a surprise:neoplacebo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:59 pmMy first experience with a coup was the one we paid for in Chile with General Pinochet leading the way. This was also during the Vietnam misadventure and when I first began to seriously doubt what and why America was doing what it was doing. And our country has never looked back but instead generally doubled down on stupid shit presented as something else.
And then there's the concept of how American Indians would "count coup" in small victories (white settlers called them massacres) over the invaders of their lands and turn those small victories into stories of bravery to be passed down within the tribe and to others. As time passed and white surpassed, coup became elusive.
Bolivia coup led by Christian fascist paramilitary leader and millionaire – with foreign support
Bolivian coup leader Luis Fernando Camacho is a far-right multi-millionaire who arose from fascist movements in the Santa Cruz region, where the US has encouraged separatism. He has courted support from Colombia, Brazil, and the Venezuelan opposition.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Attempted in DC 1/6/2021
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Pundit: "Biggest domestic terror attack since 9/11."
Meaning in its significance, not body count.