Sedition

[Vrede too]

I'd hate this for him.

It would be tragic.

Ex-President Trump is 76 years old. If he gets his way, he will die long before federal prison gets its hands on him.

Bet quite a few of her brethren are ashamed of her too.

A smarter lawyer would not self-own like that.

[GoCubsGo]

Bet quite a few of her brethren are ashamed of her too.

Yeah, Twitter is having some fun.

Only the best people!

[Vrede too]

Yeah, Twitter is having some fun.

Only the best people!

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1 ... 8749710336

Trump Attorney Says She’s ‘Ashamed To Be A Lawyer’ And You Know What Happened
Alina Habba's furious response on Fox News to the indictment of the former president went spectacularly awry.

You should be embarrassed. You’re fuckin embarrassing!

If I were a lawyer, I'd have been ashamed the very day I agreed to take on Trump as a client.

Honestly we are all embarrassed that Habba is a lawyer.

More at the link.

[GoCubsGo]

Why do they never actually defend the crimes and go straight to whataboutisms.

[O Really]

Why do they never actually defend the crimes and go straight to whataboutisms.

Yeah, that drives me nutz. But of course it's because there isn't any actual defense. In the "documents" case, no matter how you might waffle around Trump's taking the material to Mar a Lago, and no matter how you proclaim his authority to read, hold, and de-classify, once you've reached the point where he's no longer President* and has been formally asked to return the docs, he has no defensible answer.

[GoCubsGo]

LOL

Guess they're taking some defense theories out for a spin.

This one isn't going to make the cut.

[O Really]

I'm pretty sure that's NOT what "the law and standard is", but even if it were, there's that little problem of Trump not being President* any more and refusing to produce after subpoena.

When are these clowns going to realize that no matter what Trump was or they thought he was, Trump is damaged goods with no loyalty whatsoever to anybody. Not that I care if Jordan crashes and burns, but it can't possibly be in his own best interest to keep shilling for that albatross.

[GoCubsGo]

Does he not know how stupid he sounds or does he not care?

[Vrede too]

Does he not know how stupid he sounds or does he not care?

https://twitter.com/AccountableGOP/stat ... 7197893633

Jim Jordan molestor-abettor has proved many times that he really is that stupid, AND he doesn't care.

[O Really]

Interesting, and expected, that the RepuQ's are nit-picking their way to be able to say he's technically not guilty. No defense at all of the substance of the charges. In my (former) world, that would be like my client telling an employee "I don't promote black chicks I haven't (slept with)" and my first offered defense is "well, really, she isn't all that black."

[Vrede too]

Interesting, and expected, that the RepuQ's are nit-picking their way to be able to say he's technically not guilty. No defense at all of the substance of the charges. In my (former) world, that would be like my client telling an employee "I don't promote black chicks I haven't (slept with)" and my first offered defense is "well, really, she isn't all that black."

They also deny the criminality of the J6 terrorists. However, on this planet:

Jan. 6 rioter who electroshocked Michael Fanone shouts 'Trump won' after receiving a 12.5 year sentence

... Forrest Rogers, an American living in Germany on Jan. 6, first surfaced evidence that Rodriguez electroshocked (Capitol Police officer) Fanone after pouring over online footage frame by frame as part of his work for "Deep State Dogs," one of the groups of online "Sedition Hunters" that popped up in the wake of Jan. 6 to identify Capitol rioters. After Rogers tweeted footage of the incident, Rodriguez was identified by activists who knew the MAGA-hatted man from the protest scene in Beverly Hills.

Rodriguez was then identified in a February 2021 HuffPost story, and was arrested by the FBI the next month....

More than 1,000 people have been charged in connection with the Jan. 6 Capitol attack, and nearly 600 have pleaded guilty. Of the approximately 524 defendants who have been sentenced, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, about 310 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration that have ranged from a few days to nearly two decades in prison. The sentences continue on a nearly daily basis: D.C. chiropractor David Walls-Kaufman was sentenced to 60 days of incarceration after admitting that he "scuffled" with officers inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, including an officer who died by suicide nine days later.

The longest sentence for a Jan. 6 defendant to date — 18 years in federal prison — went to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who was convicted of seditious conspiracy in November 2022. Federal prosecutors had sought a sentence of 25 years in federal prison in that case.

Two other Jan. 6 defendants who assaulted Fanone have received significant sentences. Kyle Young — a Jan. 6 rioter who was accompanied by his teenage son when he handed Rodriguez the electroshock weapon used to attack Fanone, whom Young grabbed during the attack — was sentenced to more than seven years in federal prison in September. Albuquerque Head — a Jan. 6 rioter who yelled "I got one!" when he seized Fanone and dragged him into the mob — was sentenced to 7.5 years in federal prison in October.

GoDoJGo

Trump LOST! America is winning.

[neoplacebo]

I sure hope this clown keeps on believing trump won.

[O Really]

Did these moon-barking election deniers ever explain how it was that it was Republican-run states with Republican-run elections that were somehow "rigged" against Trump but not against the Republican senators and congresscritters that got elected? Rhetorical question.

[GoCubsGo]

Did these moon-barking election deniers ever explain how it was that it was Republican-run states with Republican-run elections that were somehow "rigged" against Trump but not against the Republican senators and congresscritters that got elected? Rhetorical question.

Deep State and New World Order don'tcha know.

[O Really]

Did these moon-barking election deniers ever explain how it was that it was Republican-run states with Republican-run elections that were somehow "rigged" against Trump but not against the Republican senators and congresscritters that got elected? Rhetorical question.

Deep State and New World Order don'tcha know.

And nobody seems to find it strange that in all the years, nobody has spilled the beans on their deathbed or been caught or even credibly accused of being directly involved in any of that stuff. Oh wait - if anybody had been caught/charged, the "deep state" would have made the charge go away, destroy all records, and give the guy a selective loss of memory. Sure, that's the ticket.

[GoCubsGo]

Did these moon-barking election deniers ever explain how it was that it was Republican-run states with Republican-run elections that were somehow "rigged" against Trump but not against the Republican senators and congresscritters that got elected? Rhetorical question.

Deep State and New World Order don'tcha know.

And nobody seems to find it strange that in all the years, nobody has spilled the beans on their deathbed or been caught or even credibly accused of being directly involved in any of that stuff. Oh wait - if anybody had been caught/charged, the "deep state" would have made the charge go away, destroy all records, and give the guy a selective loss of memory. Sure, that's the ticket.

Haven't we all been beating our heads trying to explain the unexplainable with these people?

Ignoring facts that don't fit their narrative is one of their best things.

[O Really]

Ignoring facts that don't fit their narrative is one of their best things.

And an essential skill too, as there are no facts that fit their narrative.

[GoCubsGo]

Ignoring facts that don't fit their narrative is one of their best things.

And an essential skill too, as there are no facts that fit their narrative.

You've forgotten about "alternative facts."

[O Really]

Ignoring facts that don't fit their narrative is one of their best things.

And an essential skill too, as there are no facts that fit their narrative.

You've forgotten about "alternative facts."

Yeah, that was fun, and was created by somebody who tried to use a term they didn't understand. The correct term is "alternative set of facts".
Fact set 1:
Jean Valjean is caught breaking into the bakery and has a stolen loaf of bread in his hand. (totally factual)

Fact set 2:
Jean Valjean's child is starving and the baker owed Valjean for some work. (also totally factual)

Applying different fact sets in one's argument for guilt or innocence can make a big difference.

But that's not "alternative facts."

[GoCubsGo]

Applying different fact sets in one's argument for guilt or innocence can make a big difference.

But that's not "alternative facts."

There's nothing they can't pervert.