Sigh.
Great minds . . .McCarthy Offers New Concessions to Try to Win Speaker Post
Rep. Kevin McCarthy of California offered fresh concessions to a hard-right band of rebels in a desperate effort to lock down the votes to become speaker, as a historic Republican deadlock that has paralyzed Congress entered its third day Thursday with no resolution.
After losing a half-dozen consecutive votes for the post over two humiliating days, McCarthy privately agreed to more demands from the right-wing rebels that he had previously refused to countenance ...
Kevin McCarthy is really embarrassing himself now. His concessions are not of a true leader. Caving to the minority.
There’s no GOP without the Far Right. Maybe some day we’ll have three parties, but for now it’s just the Democrats and the Clown Show.
By the time McCarthy gets the job, if he gets the job he'll have less authority than one of the janitors.I respect the janitors more
By tomorrow, he's going to offer to cut his balls off and put them in a jar that Boebert can keep on her desk.He already did that when he gave them to Donald.
I approve of these messages.This is all great news to those who say "Gee, you know, I like the republican party, but they are just not insane, sadistic, racist and fascist enough for me. There is some occasional truth that leaks out accidentally. We can't have that!"
Let's let the extremists hold us hostage until we give in to whatever they demand! Conceding to terrorist bullies always ends well, after all. They will learn their lesson and never do this sort of thing again, right?
WTF are the inept RepuQs doing? Why call for votes when there's been zero progress???Vrede too wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:17 pm
Day two (January 4, 2023)
Fourth, fifth and sixth ballots:
Hakeem Jeffries (NY 8) 212 49.0% - Haaakeeem!
Kevin McCarthy (CA 20) 201 46.4% - one less vote than yesterday
Byron Donalds (FL 19) 20 4.6% - O Really's old district
Ukrainian-born Victoria Spartz (IN 5) voted present, thus reducing the votes needed to 217. She had voted for McCarthy in each previous ballot.
Adjourned, FAILURE x 6.
Yeah, the whole thing stinks like a six day old fish slap. A true fucking disgrace. epic fish slap
The only thing they can do is vote on a speaker or adjourn, they literally cannot do anything else until a speaker is elected.
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Where are the insurrectionists we need to slap the House GQP around?GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:16 pmThe only thing they can do is vote on a speaker or adjourn, they literally cannot do anything else until a speaker is elected.
The dems and the Rebels don't want to adjourn and it takes 218 to do so.
The talking heads are saying the Republicans want to adjourn until Tuesday because of family obligations or some such bullshit.
They want out of Dodge on Jan 6.
Barely elected. The abaci must have been clacking to see if it was over 50%.December 1859 – February 1860
An election for speaker took place over the course of eight weeks, December 5, 1859 through February 1, 1860, at the start of the 36th Congress, following the 1858–59 elections in which the Republicans won a plurality of the seats. William Pennington (R-NJ5), a freshman congressman, received a majority of the votes cast in the 44th ballot and was elected speaker. The bitter election dispute deepened the rift between slave states and free states and helped push Southern political leaders further toward secession.
William Pennington (NJ 5) 117 50.22
It was Tim Burchett (TN2, Knoxville), not neoplacebo's Rep but in his hood.Vrede too wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:38 pmGood point, I hadn't thought of that. Where are the insurrectionists we need to slap the House GQP around?GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:16 pmThe only thing they can do is vote on a speaker or adjourn, they literally cannot do anything else until a speaker is elected.
The dems and the Rebels don't want to adjourn and it takes 218 to do so.
The talking heads are saying the Republicans want to adjourn until Tuesday because of family obligations or some such bullshit.
They want out of Dodge on Jan 6.
Edit: There's a motion to adjourn until noon tomorrow. 15 minutes to vote electronically just began at 7:51 EST.
Edit 2: The motion to adjourn passed on a party line vote 219-213. The Dems wanted the Clown Show to continue, as you said yesterday. Idk which lone Repub crossed the aisle....
Moderate Republican + gone Goofy Gaetz = Win-win.GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:01 amAwww, man! I'd be tempted.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Acyn/status/ ... 7449319424
Also, Ken Buck (R-CO4) was again absent. Victoria Spartz (R-IN5) relented and voted for McCarthy as she had on Day 1, might be annoyed that it was for naught.Day four (January 6)
Twelfth ballot
On the twelfth ballot, Mike Garcia of California nominated McCarthy, Jim Clyburn of South Carolina nominated Jeffries, Gaetz nominated Jordan, and Boebert again nominated Hern. On this ballot, 14 Republican members voted for McCarthy who had voted against him in some or all previous rounds. David Trone (D) of Maryland was absent due to a pre-scheduled surgery. Wesley Hunt (R) of Texas was absent due to returning to Texas to be with his wife and newborn child. This ballot marked the first time that McCarthy won the plurality vote and the first time that Jeffries did not get 212 votes, although the latter was due to Trone's absence.
Kevin McCarthy = 12-time LOSER. They're doing the Thirteenth ballot right now.Republican Kevin McCarthy (CA 20) 213 49.4%
Democratic Hakeem Jeffries (NY 8) 211 49.0%
Republican Jim Jordan (OH 4) 4 0.9%
Republican Kevin Hern (OK 1) 3 0.7%
Total votes 431 100%
Not voting 3 —
Votes necessary 216 >50%
Note that the Dems have been steadfast in support of the Black guy, Hakeem Jeffries, while today the GQP abandoned the Black guy, Byron Donalds, entirely. This is a metaphor for US politics.Thirteenth ballot
On the thirteenth ballot, James Comer of Kentucky nominated McCarthy and Veronica Escobar of Texas nominated Jeffries. For the first time, there were no other nominations. Andy Harris of Maryland voted for McCarthy for the first time on this ballot. Trone, who was absent on the previous ballot, returned to the House.
Republican Kevin McCarthy (CA 20) 214 49.5%
Democratic Hakeem Jeffries (NY 8) 212 49.1%
Republican Jim Jordan (OH 4) 6 1.4%
Total votes 432 100%
Not voting 2 —
Votes necessary 217 >50%
@cadescove wrote:Looks like this is holding up.@cadescove wrote:Mixing metaphors.....
The train wreck that is the Republican party is about to turn into a rudderless ship.
He'll probably get the speakership eventually, but he will also be diminished even more than he already is.
Zero legislation will be signed into law in the next two years amidst the government shutdowns which will accomplish nothing and eventually will reopen under some sort of continuing resolution that will ultimately cost the taxpayers more than not shutting down.
Then they'll blame the Democrats.
The outlook for 2024 is looking up.
Why is your post reading "Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:41 pm"? I thought it got auto translated to my Sat Jan 07, 2023 12:41 am.
Fourteenth ballot
On the fourteenth ballot, Patrick McHenry of North Carolina nominated McCarthy and Aguilar again nominated Jeffries. Boebert and Gaetz voted present, and Buck and Hunt returned to vote for McCarthy. As McCarthy personally attempted to convince Boebert and Gaetz to vote for him, Mike Rogers of Alabama was physically restrained as he argued with Gaetz. McCarthy ended up being 1 vote short of becoming speaker.
Republican Kevin McCarthy (CA 20) 216 50.0%
Democratic Hakeem Jeffries (NY 8) 212 49.1%
Republican Andy Biggs (AZ 5) 2 0.45%
Republican Jim Jordan (OH 4) 2 0.45%
Total votes 432 100%
Voted present 2 —
Votes necessary 217 >50%
14-time LOSER!
How humiliating to so abase himself for what will be a hollow victory.Fifteenth ballot
On the fifteenth ballot, Bruce Westerman of Arkansas nominated McCarthy and Dean Phillips of Minnesota nominated Jeffries. The final vote began at 11:50 p.m., and the threshold of 215 members present and voting needed for a majority (excluding those present and not voting) was reached at 12:29 a.m. the next day, with the vote going past midnight. With a majority of votes cast, McCarthy was elected speaker at 12:37 a.m. after the results were announced by the clerk.
Republican Kevin McCarthy (CA 20) 216 50.5%
Democratic Hakeem Jeffries (NY 8) 212 49.5%
Total votes 428 100%
Voted present 6 —
Votes necessary 215 >50%
