Fascism Is here

[GoCubsGo]

No irony here.

[1 CAT FAN]

Insurrection, cubby?

[Whack9]

Trump admin considers suspending writ of habeus corpus

https://apnews.com/article/habeas-corpu ... 32c72f2b3d

White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller says President Donald Trump is looking for ways to expand its legal power to deport migrants who are in the United States illegally. To achieve that, he says the administration is “actively looking at” suspending habeas corpus, the constitutional right for people to legally challenge their detention by the government.

Such a move would be aimed at migrants as part of the Republican president’s broader crackdown at the U.S.-Mexico border.

“The Constitution is clear, and that of course is the supreme law of the land, that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion,” Miller told reporters outside the White House on Friday.

Conservatives flying the Gadsden flag: Tread on me, daddy .

If suspended only for a specific group, can't they just claim anyone as an illegal immigrant and ship them off? If you don't have your day in court, you have no chance to prove otherwise.

This is reminiscent of past instances of countries claiming someone to be a kulak, a covert CIA agent, a counter revolutionary and the government doing as they please. This is just the the modern day American twist.

[Vrede too]

Trump admin considers suspending writ of habeus corpus

https://apnews.com/article/habeas-corpu ... 32c72f2b3d


Conservatives flying the Gadsden flag: Tread on me, daddy .

If suspended only for a specific group, can't they just claim anyone as an illegal immigrant and ship them off? If you don't have your day in court, you have no chance to prove otherwise.

This is reminiscent of past instances of countries claiming someone to be a kulak, a covert CIA agent, a counter revolutionary and the government doing as they please. This is just the the modern day American twist.

Yuck, though I wouldn't take everything Stephen Miller says at face value. He's been a wingnut since grade school and is not a lawyer or a constitutional history expert.


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[Supsalemgr]

Trump admin considers suspending writ of habeus corpus

https://apnews.com/article/habeas-corpu ... 32c72f2b3d


Conservatives flying the Gadsden flag: Tread on me, daddy .

If suspended only for a specific group, can't they just claim anyone as an illegal immigrant and ship them off? If you don't have your day in court, you have no chance to prove otherwise.

This is reminiscent of past instances of countries claiming someone to be a kulak, a covert CIA agent, a counter revolutionary and the government doing as they please. This is just the the modern day American twist.

Yuck, though I wouldn't take everything Stephen Miller says at face value. He's been a wingnut since grade school and is not a lawyer or a constitutional history expert.


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No question he is Trump's designated hand grenade thrower. He has been fairly effective in that role.

[GoCubsGo]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-y ... 00411.html

[Vrede too]

https://x.com/JuddLegum/status/1917958279008764162

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-y ... 00411.html

You changed the thread title.


The Stasi would be proud:

Federal judge won’t block Trump’s plan to use IRS data to track down undocumented migrants

A federal judge won’t block a controversial Trump administration initiative to share highly sensitive taxpayer information with federal immigration authorities in hopes of tracking down undocumented immigrants and quickly deporting them out of the country.

District Judge Dabney Friedrich on Monday rejected arguments from several immigrant-rights groups, that claimed the data-sharing agreement between the Internal Revenue Service and Immigration and Customs Enforcement violated taxpayer confidentiality laws.

Dabney was appointed by DonOLD, of course Hateful xenophobia is the excuse for sacrificing the privacy of all of us.

... The data-sharing deal allows DHS, which oversees ICE, to ask the IRS to confirm home addresses of suspected undocumented immigrants who are suspected of defying deportation orders. The deal was pushed through in early April over the objections of several top career IRS officials, who refused to sign it because of legal concerns.

Those concerns stemmed from the fact that federal laws strictly limit when the IRS can share taxpayer information with other agencies. The IRS can share data to aid criminal investigations, but the tax agency can’t share data solely to facilitate deportations, which are a civil matter.

Heroes.

... For decades, undocumented immigrants have been encouraged to register with the IRS and pay the federal taxes they owe – and have been assured their private identifying information will remain private. The Trump administration’s attempt to eliminate this firewall has spurred panic in immigrant communities and has led some undocumented migrants to pull back from filing their federal taxes this year....

Opps, revenue decrease = deficit increase.

[GoCubsGo]

You changed the thread title.

Needed to be done.

We can only hope we need to change it back.

[Vrede too]

You changed the thread title.

Needed to be done.

We can only hope we need to change it back.

Idk, it's not like "Fascism may be here" was very uplifting. How about "Fascism has been defeated!"?

[GoCubsGo]

You changed the thread title.

Needed to be done.

We can only hope we need to change it back.

Idk, it's not like "Fascism may be here" was very uplifting. How about "Fascism has been defeated!"?

A bridge we will all gladly cross if and when we get there.

[Vrede too]

This one may blow up.

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/1920927113021931933

I wouldn't count on it. Over the years a number of pols have attempted unscheduled, unannounced 'site visits'. They're lawfully stopped, get a minor prosecution or not, are never sentenced to jail, and that's pretty much the end of it.

Looks like you were correct and I was wrong. Still news 5 days later. The Mayor may have been lawfully stopped, but not the members of Congress.

Temperatures rise over House Democrats’ scuffle with ICE agents

... New Jersey Rep. Nellie Pou (D) also hammered Noem for “blatantly ignoring our laws.”

“The law is very, very clear. Members of Congress can show up unannounced to facilities, and ICE must accommodate a tour of their detention centers. The fact that your spokesperson suggested arresting members of Congress who were given a tour of the facility is disturbing, and certainly dangerous,” she told Noem.

“We will not accept threats or intimidation by anyone at your department or across the administration for exercising our constitutional oversight authority.” ...

There's more in the pretty long article - Dem truthful-sounding accounts of what happened and Lying and Whining (LAW) from (most) RepuQs and Friendly Fire Barbie Gnome.

GoSurprise visitsGo!

[Whack9]

Ew



Also, that picture is so fucking stupid. Why is he squinting with one eye like he just finished servicing Musk and got some in his eye?

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This one may blow up.

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/1920927113021931933

I wouldn't count on it. Over the years a number of pols have attempted unscheduled, unannounced 'site visits'. They're lawfully stopped, get a minor prosecution or not, are never sentenced to jail, and that's pretty much the end of it.

Looks like you were correct and I was wrong. Still news 5 days later. The Mayor may have been lawfully stopped, but not the members of Congress.

Temperatures rise over House Democrats’ scuffle with ICE agents

... New Jersey Rep. Nellie Pou (D) also hammered Noem for “blatantly ignoring our laws.”

“The law is very, very clear. Members of Congress can show up unannounced to facilities, and ICE must accommodate a tour of their detention centers. The fact that your spokesperson suggested arresting members of Congress who were given a tour of the facility is disturbing, and certainly dangerous,” she told Noem.

“We will not accept threats or intimidation by anyone at your department or across the administration for exercising our constitutional oversight authority.” ...

There's more in the pretty long article - Dem truthful-sounding accounts of what happened and Lying and Whining (LAW) from (most) RepuQs and Friendly Fire Barbie Gnome.

GoSurprise visitsGo!

They threw their dumbocrat asses out.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - “we are going to have a problem”

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Ew

https://bsky.app/profile/sundaedivine.b ... 5ij6az7224

Obscene

Also, that picture is so fucking stupid. Why is he squinting with one eye like he just finished servicing Musk and got some in his eye?

[Whack9]

Gross.

Joe Rogan claims banning Kanye’s ‘kinda catchy’ Hitler song ‘kind of supports’ what he says about Jews
‘It’s the ultimate pushing back,’ Joe Rogan said about Kanye West’s pro-Hitler song

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 51825.html

Joe Rogan argued against tech platforms banning Kanye West’s latest song praising Adolf Hitler, noting that the millions of downloads the “kinda catchy” tune has racked up on X “kind of supports” the rapper’s antisemitic views that there’s a “concerted effort” by Jewish people to remove him from everything.

West, who has openly expressed his love for the leader of the Third Reich in recent years, uploaded the songs “Heil Hitler” and “WW3,” another tune that glorifies Hitler, to X earlier this month. While Spotify and SoundCloud rushed to remove the song from their platforms, Heil Hitler proliferated across the Elon Musk-led social media site and racked up millions of views.

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With the pro-Nazi tune continuing to spread across right-wing social media accounts, Rogan attempted to thread the needle this week between denouncing West’s hateful and trollish rhetoric while also defending the lack of censorship on X. At the same time, he argued that the song’s popularity on X could be seen as proving some of what West is saying about Jewish people.

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Segura, meanwhile, felt that “making a catchy song” about shouting “Heil Hitler” only serves to give permission to others to do that very thing in public. “Like, you’re just getting at a minimum, you’re just going to get more people that think it’s cool to say, ‘Heil Hitler.’ Like, that’s at the minimum,” he added.

“Well, I think that’s part of the program. I think that’s what he’s trying to do,” the popular podcaster replied.

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And then it kind of supports what he says, which is that there’s this concerted effort if you talk about Jewish people, that they’re going to remove you from everything, remove you from banking, which is what he’s saying, they run everything,” Rogan proclaimed.

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Gross.

Joe Rogan claims banning Kanye’s ‘kinda catchy’ Hitler song ‘kind of supports’ what he says about Jews
‘It’s the ultimate pushing back,’ Joe Rogan said about Kanye West’s pro-Hitler song

https://www.the-independent.com/news/wo ... 51825.html

I have not heard the songs, but I'm sure I'd find them offensive and would support banning them from platforms like X.

However, there is also an argument that RW Israel and RW Jewish orgs in the US have, in part, brought this on themselves and more moderate Jews. For decades they have sought both private AND government censorship by deceitfully equating opposition to Israel POLICY with rightfully illegal antisemitism. Prior to the October 7 Hamas-led terror attack on Israel and the subsequent genocide and ethnic cleansing by Israel, this came to a head with the sometimes successful government suppression of the ostensibly 1A-protected Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement.

So, a pox on both Kanye and RW Jewry.

[Whack9]

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

They've basically fallen in line with authoritarians past and present who've done things in the name of that nebulous entity "the people". Trump's even slung around "enemy of the people" on multiple occasions.

I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance. The argument goes that a democracy results in tyranny of the majority, whereas in a constitutional Republic, the tyranny of the majority is kept in check by rule of law.

These people are trash. They have no values outside of power. They openly contradict themselves whenever it's beneficial to them. We (were) a nation of laws. The foundation of which is the US constitution. Without said foundation what's even the point?

Scenario: a candidate runs his/her campaign on confiscating all private property and distributing it to "the people" and wins. Clearly against the law. But because it's "the will of the people" it's suddenly ok? Following the line of reasoning of Trump and Vance, yes.

[GoCubsGo]

It's almost as if the Constitution doesn't matter.

And when it supposedly does, it's most often perverted and distorted.

[O Really]

A long way from when "conservatives" considered themselves and took pride in being "strict constructionists"
I might not have agreed with them then, but it's way better than ignoring over 250 years of law.

[Supsalemgr]

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

They've basically fallen in line with authoritarians past and present who've done things in the name of that nebulous entity "the people". Trump's even slung around "enemy of the people" on multiple occasions.

I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance. The argument goes that a democracy results in tyranny of the majority, whereas in a constitutional Republic, the tyranny of the majority is kept in check by rule of law.

These people are trash. They have no values outside of power. They openly contradict themselves whenever it's beneficial to them. We (were) a nation of laws. The foundation of which is the US constitution. Without said foundation what's even the point?

Scenario: a candidate runs his/her campaign on confiscating all private property and distributing it to "the people" and wins. Clearly against the law. But because it's "the will of the people" it's suddenly ok? Following the line of reasoning of Trump and Vance, yes.

"I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance."

Are you saying the USA is not a "representative republic"?