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It would seem that artificial intelligence would be a great and improved replacement for whatever passes for intelligence in Montana. (sorry Vrede, no offense). They've decided to ban TikTok to keep nefarious Chinese from watching their cow videos or whatever, but have not presented any evidence that any Chinese has ever watched their cows or has any interest in doing so. Sure, technologically the Chinese probably could, but there are a lot more ways than TikTok. I wonder if the Montana geniuses know how high a percentage of Montanans use Chinese phones. With cameras! and data transmission ability! Arrrrrghhh! Or maybe go to Chinese restaurants!

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I left and the place went to hell. :wave:

:D I just shunned clicking on a related article in banni's scroll b/c I guessed the issue is irrelevant. Now you made me look.
Here's how Montana's TikTok ban works, according to experts

... TikTok serves hundreds of thousands of users in Montana and more than 5,000 businesses, TikTok spokesperson Brooke Oberwetter told ABC News.

In a statement, Oberwetter denounced the ban and reminded users in Montana that they remain allowed to use the app.

"Governor Gianforte has signed a bill that infringes on the First Amendment rights of the people of Montana by unlawfully banning TikTok," she said. "We want to reassure Montanans that they can continue using TikTok to express themselves, earn a living, and find community as we continue working to defend the rights of our users inside and outside of Montana."

Here's what to know about the TikTok ban in Montana, according to experts:

How can Montana ban TikTok?

The Montana ban, which takes effect in January 2024, does not prevent current users from accessing the app or penalize them for doing so.

Instead, the ban targets the availability of the app by threatening entities such as TikTok, Google and Apple with a $10,000 fine for each day that the platform remains accessible in app stores for users in Montana.

"This is not doing anything with respect to existing users," Sarah Kreps, director of Cornell University's Tech Policy Institute, told ABC News, noting however that the law will hinder current users eventually as they fail to download new updates to the app.

"Users need updates to have TikTok run smoothly and efficiently," Kreps said. "Over time, it will have a siphoning off effect on these existing users."

The law will be nullified if TikTok is no longer headquartered in "any country designated as a foreign adversary" by the U.S. government.
:headscratch: That sounds like an admission within the law that Montana is trying to conduct foreign policy.
... users in Montana will likely be able to elude the restrictions by using technology that falsifies their location and allows them to download the app, they added.
... users could likely circumvent the ban through the use of a Virtual Private Network, or VPN, which allows one to pose as a user logging on from a different location, thereby circumventing the state-specific ban, experts said.
Proxies, Tor or the VPNs that many already use - Opps.
... Can the TikTok ban in Montana withstand a legal challenge?

The TikTok ban in Montana will likely face a formidable challenge on First Amendment grounds that could ultimately knock down part or all of the measure, experts said.

Free speech advocacy groups such as the ACLU have sharply criticized the measure. "We will never trade our First Amendment rights for cheap political points," Keegan Medrano, policy director at the ACLU of Montana, said in a statement on Wednesday.

When considering a limit on speech, courts typically weigh the extent of a national security or privacy concern against the restriction placed on expression, (computer science professor at Brown University Timothy) Edgar said.

"The court will say this clearly has an impact on the expression rights of TikTok users and creators, so what's the government's compelling justification?" Edgar said.

"That's the big challenge," he added.
Opps.
How You, or Anyone, Can Dodge Montana’s TikTok Ban
Montana’s TikTok ban will be impossible to enforce. But it could encourage copycat crackdowns against the social media app.


Montana’s TikTok ban is a technological nightmare. Experts warn it will be incredibly difficult for officials to enforce and incredibly easy for almost anyone to get around. But more than that, it’s a move that undermines America’s history of fostering an open, democratic internet.

The law, which comes into effect at the start of 2024, will both block TikTok from mobile app stores in Montana while also banning TikTok from operating in the state. It’s a move that brings with it a host of First Amendment concerns, and may never be enacted if legal challenges block it. But, if it does go ahead, experts warn it is likely to be a mess.

“From a technical perspective, even if this was a national law, there would be challenges to try to make this work,” says John Morris, principal, US internet policy and advocacy at the Internet Society, a nonprofit that promotes an open internet. But because people can use VPNs to change their browsing location, it’s even harder to ensure a local ban will work. “State boundaries are not something that’s built into the internet.”

... The US has historically advocated for an open internet and criticized countries that censor online access. China is successful in its mass censorship because of its Great Firewall—a system unlike anything in the US, and one that Montana could not build for itself. Other countries, including Indonesia and Pakistan, have banned TikTok and then rescinded the blocks. India’s TikTok ban, introduced in June 2020, is still in place. Montana, along with other states, and the US federal government have blocked TikTok from government devices, but geoblocking from specific regions within the US would prove much harder.

... there’s no way for TikTok to know whether people are using VPNs within Montana to access the social network, which makes this law “very complicated,” and “very difficult to enforce” if TikTok is the liable party rather than the service provider, says Kevin Du, a professor of electrical engineering and computer science at Syracuse University.
Opps.
Why Montana's TikTok ban faces massive challenges

... The law, which goes into effect Jan. 1, 2024 ...
Plenty of time for user to figure out workarounds and for app stores to post workaround guides. Ironically, there will be TikToks on how to dodge the TikTok ban. Opps.
... Even enforcing the ban could prove problematic for Montana. If the state chooses to determine residents’ locations based on their internet protocol addresses, they could accidentally block citizens of bordering states from downloading TikTok, as well....
Opps, grounds for different lawsuits.
... Regardless, we won’t have to wait long to find out how Montana’s ban will fare in the courts. According to Reuters, a group of five Montana TikTok users are already suing the state to block the ban.

The clock is ticking.
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Well, that does it. Montana skies will soon be dense with Chinese spy balloons dropping fish heads on ever livin thing in sight.

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Well, that does it. Montana skies will soon be dense with Chinese spy balloons dropping fish heads on ever livin thing in sight.
Mmmm soup.

A professor falsely accused his class of using ChatGPT. Their diplomas are in jeopardy.

... While ChatGPT cannot be used to detect AI-generated writing, a rush of technology companies are selling software they claim can analyze essays to detect such text. But accurate detection is very difficult, according to educational technology experts, forcing American educators into a pickle: adapt to the technology or make futile attempts to limit the ways it's used.

The responses range the gamut. The New York City Department of Education has banned ChatGPT in its schools, as has the University of Sciences Po, in Paris, citing concerns it may foster rampant plagiarism and undermine learning. Other professors openly encourage use of chatbots, comparing them to educational tools like a calculator, and argue teachers should adapt curriculums to the software.

Yet educational experts say the tensions erupting at Texas A&M lay bare a troubling reality: Protocols on how and when to use chatbots in classwork are vague and unenforceable, with any effort to regulate use risking false accusations.
That's a poser. -0-? Sounds like academia will be changed forever.
... In response to concerns in the classroom, a fleet of companies have released products claiming they can flag AI generated text. Plagiarism detection company Turnitin unveiled an AI-writing detector in April to subscribers. A Post examination showed it can wrongly flag human generated text as written by AI. In January, ChatGPT-maker OpenAI said it created a tool that can distinguish between human and AI-generated text, but noted that it "is not fully reliable" and incorrectly labels such text 9 percent of the time.

Detecting AI-generated text is hard. The software searches lines of text and looks for sentences that are "too consistently average," Eric Wang, Turnitin's vice president of AI, told The Post in April.
:headscratch: Too average?
... Pedagogy is going to be different," he said. "And fighting [AI], I think it's a losing battle."
'Resistance is futile.'
:wtf: Where have I heard that before?

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US Air Force denies AI drone attacked operator in test

A US Air Force colonel "mis-spoke" when describing an experiment in which an AI-enabled drone opted to attack its operator in order to complete its mission, the service has said.

Colonel Tucker Hamilton, chief of AI test and operations in the US Air Force, was speaking at a conference organised by the Royal Aeronautical Society....

In his talk, he had described a simulation in which an AI-enabled drone was repeatedly stopped from completing its task of destroying Surface-to-Air Missile sites by its human operator.

He said that in the end, despite having been trained not to kill the operator, the drone destroyed the communication tower so that the operator could no longer communicate with it.
:shock: Then, they have to train them not to kill the operator??? :o
"We've never run that experiment, nor would we need to in order to realise that this is a plausible outcome," Col Hamilton later clarified in a statement to the Royal Aeronautical Society.

He added that it was a "thought experiment" rather than anything which had actually taken place.
Okay, I guess, but I'm not that comforted that these are the realistic thought experiments they're running.
AI warnings

There have been a number of warnings about the threat to humanity posed by AI issued recently by people working in the sector, although not all experts agree how serious a risk it is.

Speaking to the BBC earlier this week, Prof Yoshua Bengio, one of three computer scientists described as the "godfathers" of AI after winning a prestigious Turing Award for their work, said he thought the military should not be allowed to have AI powers at all.

He described it as "one of the worst places where we could put a super-intelligent AI".
Good luck preventing it.
... Steve Wright, professor of aerospace engineering at the University of the West of England, and an expert in unmanned aerial vehicles, told me jokingly that he had "always been a fan of the Terminator films" when I asked him for his thoughts about the story.
Hah-hah :roll: . Can humans devise fail-safes that AIs can't overcome?
... "In reality we address this by always including a second computer that has been programmed using old-style techniques, and this can pull the plug as soon as the first one does something strange."
Fine . . . until the AI deems the second computer to be a threat, just like the operator in the "thought experiment". Judgement Day is nigh.
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Don't take my word for it. I'm just a raving paranoid Henny Penny.
Biden warns AI could 'overtake human thinking'

... USA Today reported that this was the president’s “most direct warning to date” about the power of AI technology.

"It's not going to be easy decisions, guys," Biden said. "I met in the Oval Office with eight leading scientists in the area of AI. Some are very worried that AI can actually overtake human thinking and planning. So we've got a lot to deal with. An incredible opportunity, but a lot [to] deal with."

The president’s remarks come days after hundreds of leaders in AI, as well as other public figures, released a statement saying that "mitigating the risk of extinction from AI should be a global priority alongside other societal-scale risks such as pandemics and nuclear war.”
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Last month, Biden met with the CEOs of AI innovation companies, including Google, Microsoft and OpenAI, in an effort to ensure that AI products are safe before they’re accessible to the public.
Ah, I feel muuuch better now with that group in charge. :roll:

What about the thousands of other large and small developers?
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Last month, Biden met with the CEOs of AI innovation companies, including Google, Microsoft and OpenAI, in an effort to ensure that AI products are safe before they’re accessible to the public.
The US in many areas is being overtaken by hard right wing zealots, (ignored or ridiculed) climate change is wreaking havoc with fires and floods, housing is becoming unaffordable and homelessness is rampant and increasing, American talibanists are running school boards, education overall is being devalued, 6 million US households aren't sure about their next meal, medical expenses are the leading cause of bankruptcies and close to 10% of the US population still doesn't have health insurance, the US is at real risk of losing much of its democracy in electing Trump or DeSantis ...

and I'm going to worry about whether AI products are "safe"? Even an evil computer couldn't do much worse than the humans have.

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The US in many areas is being overtaken by hard right wing zealots, (ignored or ridiculed) climate change is wreaking havoc with fires and floods, housing is becoming unaffordable and homelessness is rampant and increasing, American talibanists are running school boards, education overall is being devalued, 6 million US households aren't sure about their next meal, medical expenses are the leading cause of bankruptcies and close to 10% of the US population still doesn't have health insurance, the US is at real risk of losing much of its democracy in electing Trump or DeSantis ...

and I'm going to worry about whether AI products are "safe"? Even an evil computer couldn't do much worse than the humans have.
There are many things that cause fear and/or anger and lost of reasons for prioritizing different ones. However, there are only a few existential threats - nuclear war, climate change, asteroid/rogue planet, maybe pandemic(s), Yellowstone supervolcano, and AI.

AI might be rather low on my action agenda b/c I'm not sure there's a way to stop whatever damage it's going to do.
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There are many things that cause fear and/or anger and lost of reasons for prioritizing different ones. However, there are only a few existential threats - nuclear war, climate change, asteroid/rogue planet, maybe pandemic(s), Yellowstone supervolcano, and AI.

AI might be rather low on my action agenda b/c I'm not sure there's a way to stop whatever damage it's going to do.
Yeah, I understand that some of my list is "first world" oriented, but they're things that could be and should be fixed with a higher priority than we're seeing. I think it would be interesting to ask AI to prioritize the most important national issues and see what s/he thinks and how it differs from what our human* congresscritters do.

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Maybe a bit over-simplified, but waaaaay better than the congresscritters are doing.
The United States faces numerous serious problems. Write a summary of what the priorities should be and how the problems could best be addressed

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The United States indeed faces several significant problems that require attention and effective solutions. Here is a summary of some priorities and potential approaches for addressing these issues:

Economic inequality: One of the most pressing problems in the United States is the increasing wealth and income inequality. To address this issue, policies should focus on promoting equitable economic growth, such as investing in education and job training programs, increasing the minimum wage, and implementing progressive tax reforms. Additionally, addressing systemic issues like affordable healthcare and affordable housing can help create a more level playing field for all citizens.

Climate change and environmental sustainability: The urgent need to combat climate change demands immediate action. The United States should prioritize transitioning to renewable energy sources and reducing greenhouse gas emissions. This can be achieved through policies such as investing in clean energy research and development, implementing carbon pricing mechanisms, and encouraging sustainable practices in industries. Additionally, international cooperation is crucial for addressing global environmental challenges effectively.

Healthcare accessibility and affordability: Ensuring access to affordable and high-quality healthcare remains a significant concern. Expanding healthcare coverage, strengthening the Affordable Care Act (ACA), and reducing prescription drug prices are essential steps. The United States should also prioritize investments in preventive care, mental health services, and healthcare infrastructure in underserved areas.

Criminal justice reform: The United States has a high incarceration rate and issues of racial disparities within the criminal justice system. Prioritizing criminal justice reform can involve reducing mandatory minimum sentences, implementing alternatives to incarceration for nonviolent offenses, investing in rehabilitation programs, and addressing systemic biases within law enforcement and the judicial system.

Education reform: Improving the quality and accessibility of education is crucial for the country's long-term success. Priorities should include increased funding for public schools, expanding access to early childhood education, promoting vocational and technical training, and addressing educational inequities in marginalized communities. Emphasizing STEM education and digital literacy will also help prepare the workforce for the demands of the future.

Political polarization and democratic reforms: The United States should prioritize bridging the political divide and strengthening democratic institutions. Encouraging constructive dialogue, promoting media literacy, and addressing campaign finance reform can help reduce polarization. Additionally, implementing electoral reforms such as ranked-choice voting and nonpartisan redistricting can foster a more representative and inclusive democracy.

Immigration reform: Comprehensive immigration reform is necessary to address the challenges posed by an outdated system. Priorities should include providing a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, streamlining legal immigration processes, and enhancing border security measures through smart and humane approaches. Reform should also focus on addressing the root causes of migration through diplomacy and targeted foreign aid.

Infrastructure investment: The United States must prioritize upgrading its aging infrastructure to enhance economic growth, sustainability, and resilience. Investments should focus on improving transportation networks, expanding broadband access, upgrading water and energy systems, and building climate-resilient infrastructure. These initiatives can create jobs, stimulate economic development, and improve the overall quality of life.

Addressing these priorities requires a combination of policy reforms, effective governance, and public-private partnerships. It is crucial for policymakers to engage in evidence-based decision-making, consider expert advice, and involve stakeholders from various sectors to ensure the best outcomes for the country as a whole.

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Homelessness?
To effectively address homelessness, both cities and the federal government in the United States should take a comprehensive and coordinated approach. Here are some key steps that can be taken:

Increase affordable housing: Cities should prioritize the construction and preservation of affordable housing units to meet the demand. This can involve offering financial incentives to developers, streamlining regulations, and allocating public land for affordable housing projects. The federal government can provide funding and resources to support these initiatives, as well as expand existing programs like the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit.

Provide support services: Homelessness often stems from a combination of economic, social, and health challenges. Cities should invest in supportive services, including mental health counseling, addiction treatment, job training, and access to healthcare. Collaborations with local nonprofits and community organizations can help provide these services effectively. The federal government should increase funding for programs like the Housing First model, which prioritizes housing stability as a platform for addressing other issues.

Prevention and early intervention: It is crucial to identify individuals and families at risk of homelessness and provide interventions before they become homeless. Cities can implement homelessness prevention programs that offer rental assistance, eviction prevention, and financial counseling. Investing in affordable childcare, education, and job placement services can also help individuals and families maintain stability.

Coordinate resources and data: Effective coordination among different government agencies, nonprofits, and service providers is essential. Cities should establish coordinated entry systems that streamline access to services and prioritize individuals most in need. Sharing data and information across agencies can help identify trends, track progress, and allocate resources more efficiently.

Address root causes: Homelessness is often linked to broader systemic issues such as poverty, unemployment, and lack of affordable healthcare. Addressing these root causes requires a multi-faceted approach. Cities and the federal government should invest in poverty alleviation programs, job creation initiatives, and affordable healthcare options. Expanding access to mental health and addiction treatment services is crucial, as many individuals experiencing homelessness have underlying mental health or substance abuse issues.

Public-private partnerships: Engaging private sector entities, including businesses, philanthropies, and faith-based organizations, can significantly contribute to homelessness solutions. Cities should explore partnerships that involve private funding for affordable housing, job training programs, and support services. Encouraging corporate social responsibility and offering incentives for businesses to participate can help mobilize resources.

Education and awareness: Public education campaigns can help raise awareness about homelessness, dispel misconceptions, and promote empathy and understanding. Cities and the federal government can collaborate to implement educational initiatives that address the causes and consequences of homelessness, encouraging community engagement and support.

It is important to recognize that addressing homelessness requires long-term commitment and sustained effort. By combining resources, implementing evidence-based strategies, and fostering collaboration between all levels of government, nonprofits, and the private sector, the United States can make significant progress toward eliminating homelessness and providing stable housing for all citizens.

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Maybe a bit over-simplified, but waaaaay better than the congresscritters are doing.

What happens when you ask ChatGPT about the threat posed by AI and how it should be prioritized? Hopefully, it won't deem you a threat that must be neutralized. :think: :wave:
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Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:33 pm
Maybe a bit over-simplified, but waaaaay better than the congresscritters are doing.

What happens when you ask ChatGPT about the threat posed by AI and how it should be prioritized? Hopefully, it won't deem you a threat that must be neutralized. :think: :wave:
Vrede wants to know does artificial intelligence pose a threat to humans, and if so what should humans do

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The potential threat posed by artificial intelligence (AI) to humans is a topic of ongoing debate and speculation. While AI has the potential to bring about significant benefits and advancements in various fields, there are concerns about its impact on society, privacy, and even the possibility of AI systems surpassing human intelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI).

Some experts and technologists, including notable figures like Elon Musk and Stephen Hawking, have expressed concerns about the long-term risks associated with AGI. They argue that if AI systems become significantly more intelligent than humans and their goals misalign with ours, it could potentially lead to unintended consequences or even pose existential risks to humanity.

To mitigate the potential risks of AI, there are several proposed approaches:

Research and Development: Continue investing in AI research to better understand its capabilities, limitations, and potential risks. Researchers and policymakers should work together to prioritize safety and ethical considerations in AI development.

Safety Measures: Develop safety precautions and standards for AI systems. This includes ensuring robust testing, verification, and validation procedures to minimize the risks of unintended behavior or harmful actions.

Ethical Guidelines: Establish ethical frameworks and guidelines for AI development and deployment. This involves considering the societal impact of AI systems, addressing biases and fairness issues, and ensuring transparency and accountability.

Collaboration and Regulation: Encourage international collaboration to develop shared norms and regulations around AI. Cooperation between governments, researchers, and industry stakeholders can help ensure responsible development and deployment of AI technologies.

Public Awareness and Education: Promote public understanding and awareness of AI, its benefits, and potential risks. Educating the public about AI can facilitate informed discussions, ethical decision-making, and public input in shaping AI policies and regulations.

It's important to note that the hypothetical risks associated with AGI are still largely speculative, and the field of AI safety is actively being explored. While it is crucial to be mindful of the potential risks, it is equally important to focus on leveraging AI for positive societal impact and ensuring that its development aligns with human values and well-being.

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What happens when you ask ChatGPT about the threat posed by AI and how it should be prioritized? Hopefully, it won't deem you a threat that must be neutralized. :think: :wave:
Vrede wants to know ...
:o :lol: Clever boy.

Of course :x , you could have just posted, "John Smith wants to know ..."
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Of course :x , you could have just posted, "John Smith wants to know ..."
Now, I'm afraid of urp, ack, brzzzp ...
Oh sure, the ol' "asking for a friend" line, eh? Like when did that ever fool anybody? Anyway, I like to give credit where credit is due, and it was a good, if somewhat risky, question. Anyway, I'm sure that you've never left any e-trail for any AI to find you. :lol: :lol:

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Oh sure, the ol' "asking for a friend" line, eh? Like when did that ever fool anybody? Anyway, I like to give credit where credit is due, and it was a good, if somewhat risky, question. Anyway, I'm sure that you've never left any e-trail for any AI to find you. :lol: :lol:
Ftr, I have merely been restating the views of chronic Chicken Littles. Personally, I am an enthusiastic AI booster and I am confident that it will bring us a verdant, peaceful, prosperous and secure world where privacy and civil liberties are scrupulously protected.
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ChatGPT took their jobs. Now they walk dogs and fix air conditioners.

... "In every previous automation threat, the automation was about automating the hard, dirty, repetitive jobs," said Ethan Mollick, an associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. "This time, the automation threat is aimed squarely at the highest-earning, most creative jobs that . . . require the most educational background."

In March, Goldman Sachs predicted that 18 percent of work worldwide could be automated by AI, with white-collar workers such as lawyers at more risk than those in trades such as construction or maintenance. "Occupations for which a significant share of workers' time is spent outdoors or performing physical labor cannot be automated by AI," the report said....
I THINK nurses will be safe, but their independence of action may be diminished and their tasks may be relegated to rote obedience to computers even more than they are now. :(
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ChatGPT took their jobs. Now they walk dogs and fix air conditioners.

... "In every previous automation threat, the automation was about automating the hard, dirty, repetitive jobs," said Ethan Mollick, an associate professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School of Business. "This time, the automation threat is aimed squarely at the highest-earning, most creative jobs that . . . require the most educational background."

In March, Goldman Sachs predicted that 18 percent of work worldwide could be automated by AI, with white-collar workers such as lawyers at more risk than those in trades such as construction or maintenance. "Occupations for which a significant share of workers' time is spent outdoors or performing physical labor cannot be automated by AI," the report said....
I THINK nurses will be safe, but their independence of action may be diminished and their tasks may be relegated to rote obedience to computers even more than they are now. :(
A former colleague and friend of my used to point out that there is no plagiarism in the practice of law. And a very large proportion of lawyers spend most of their time in repetitive work. Real Estate lawyers, wills and trust and probate, tax, bankruptcy...yada, all involve a lot of form-filling and process-following. Research is automated, form templates are generated with a click, court filings are electronically transmitted. There is, and may always be, some judgement and decision-making involved that may be AI-assisted but not taken over, but there will undoubtedly be fewer real lawyers needed.

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O Really wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:50 am


A former colleague and friend of my used to point out that there is no plagiarism in the practice of law. And a very large proportion of lawyers spend most of their time in repetitive work. Real Estate lawyers, wills and trust and probate, tax, bankruptcy...yada, all involve a lot of form-filling and process-following. Research is automated, form templates are generated with a click, court filings are electronically transmitted. There is, and may always be, some judgement and decision-making involved that may be AI-assisted but not taken over, but there will undoubtedly be fewer real lawyers needed.
Is fewer lawyers actually a bad thing? :P
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:36 pm

Is fewer lawyers actually a bad thing? :P
:lol: I guess it depends on whether or not you're a lawyer, or whether or not you're injured/being sued/arrested. But the unemployment rate for lawyers is very tiny, so I guess there aren't too many yet. Or maybe there already are fewer proportionately than there once were.

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trump will lie that the recording of him admitting to having classified documents is "fake news" created by "radical left wing Democrats" using Ai. The cult will believe this.

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