Happy Holidays!

[GoCubsGo]

CNN doesn't seem to know if he's serious, much like the rest of us that aren't trumpaloons.

Why does he feel a need to bully our allies? His sickophants cheer wildly and the rest of the world sees a very damaged individual.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/23/politics ... index.html

[Supsalemgr]

"And yet everybody on your side just goes along as if it's real and a good thing. Are there NO republicans who disagree with withdrawal from WHO - an organization that literally every other country in the world except 4 are members of? Conversely, has there been any significant demand from the public to get out of WHO or has it even been an issue for many people?"

In response to OReally. I am sure there are some republicans who do not support leaving the WHO. Personally, I believe it to be an ineffective drain on American funds. I also believe it is a left leaning, globalist organization. That being said, the USA should not leave it. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

[GoCubsGo]

"And yet everybody on your side just goes along as if it's real and a good thing. Are there NO republicans who disagree with withdrawal from WHO - an organization that literally every other country in the world except 4 are members of? Conversely, has there been any significant demand from the public to get out of WHO or has it even been an issue for many people?"

In response to OReally. I am sure there are some republicans who do not support leaving the WHO. Personally, I believe it to be an ineffective drain on American funds. I also believe it is a left leaning, globalist organization. That being said, the USA should not leave it. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

Wouldn't it be easier to use the quote function?

[O Really]

In response to OReally. I am sure there are some republicans who do not support leaving the WHO. Personally, I believe it to be an ineffective drain on American funds. I also believe it is a left leaning, globalist organization. That being said, the USA should not leave it. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

So why doesn't anybody say so? You can disagree with a position and still support the person. I don't know if health issues are left or right leaning - seems to me they affect everybody regardless of politics. But "globalist"? Sure - literally every country but 4 are members. Is that a bad thing? And why would we consider most of them to be "enemies"?

[Vrede too]

What O Really says. The cult has beaten thoughtful dissenting Repubs into cowering submission and unpatriotic silence. Look at the hoops uber-obedient SoupySales hilariously jumps through for his idol:

Breaking news: Denali National Park, Panama, Greenland, Denmark and Canada have formed an 'Axis of Sanity'. They briefly considered an invasion, but have instead settled on a strategy of mocking pity. Other nations are rushing to join their alliance.

I am sure this is a question many non Trumpers may ask. My personal view is they know many of his comments are absurd by purpose. They get attention. Rush made a lucrative career with this approach. Also, it adds to his reputation of being hard to read.

Do you understand how revoltingly childish and desperate for attention this is?

Anyhow, I'm leaving the door open for this just being massive stupidity on the part of DonOLD and his adoring MAGAts.

It obviously went over Vrede's head that all politicians are looking for ways to receive attention.

In his sycophantic need to cover for his idol and the cult the words "revoltingly childish and desperate" obviously go over SoupySales' head. Other politicians don't stupidly threaten Alaska, Denali, Panama, Greenland, Denmark and Canada.

We've got enough mocking pity left over for SoupySales, too. Now about those other bizarre 14+ appointments that you're running away from discussing?

[Vrede too]

In response to OReally. I am sure there are some republicans who do not support leaving the WHO. Personally, I believe it to be an ineffective drain on American funds. I also believe it is a left leaning, globalist organization. That being said, the USA should not leave it. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

WHO is your enemy? Bless your poor widdle victimized and paranoid heart.

In creepy and hateful Trumpworld science and public health are "left leaning".

[Supsalemgr]

"And yet everybody on your side just goes along as if it's real and a good thing. Are there NO republicans who disagree with withdrawal from WHO - an organization that literally every other country in the world except 4 are members of? Conversely, has there been any significant demand from the public to get out of WHO or has it even been an issue for many people?"

In response to OReally. I am sure there are some republicans who do not support leaving the WHO. Personally, I believe it to be an ineffective drain on American funds. I also believe it is a left leaning, globalist organization. That being said, the USA should not leave it. "keep your friends close and your enemies closer".

Wouldn't it be easier to use the quote function?

Thanks. Found it.

[O Really]

So Supe - a couple more real questions:
No. 12 on Agenda 47 is a pledge to “strengthen and modernize our military, making it,
without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world.”

Do you support this goal?
Do you think an inexperienced and unqualified news personality with some part-time military experience, who you describe as a "bull in a china shop" is really going to be able to make it happen?

[Supsalemgr]

I certainly believe the USA having the most powerful military is critical to possible peace in most of the world. I accept, lasting peace in the middle east is fantasy. However, I want those nut jobs to be wary of the USA. I don't know if Hegseth can accomplish our goals, but name someone who could? The pentagon may be the largest swamp in Washington.

[O Really]

I'm not sure what "swamp" means but with 2.5 million people in multiple places all over the world with varied missions and all thinking they're the baddest dudes in the valley, how would you run it without some levels of bureaucracy? As to which could . Amen it better, it's not a one-person job. It needs some body who thoroughly understands the current operations and has the ability to work with and accept input from others. Taking a "meat ax" approach never works for improvement in any organization.

[Supsalemgr]

Certainly some bureaucracy is a necessity. However, there is room for better efficiency and effectiveness of that bureaucracy.

[GoCubsGo]

So Supe - a couple more real questions:
No. 12 on Agenda 47 is a pledge to “strengthen and modernize our military, making it,
without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world.”

That always confuses me. We're certainly not the biggest by numbers and we won't be as long as we are all volunteer.

We're not the most powerful without question?

We're not the most modern without question?

If not us, who is?

WTF?

Do we not spend minimally three times more than any other country annually? Last year was over 800 billion dollars.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militar ... ted_States

[Supsalemgr]

The graph "screams" for reform. We are not receiving our money's worth for what we are spending.

[O Really]

Certainly some bureaucracy is a necessity. However, there is room for better efficiency and effectiveness of that bureaucracy.

Well that would usually involve cutting layers of management, which in the military would requires significant changes in the "chain of command" that's pretty much a cornerstone of the military. I'm sure it could be done, but whether it can be done at a time you're also trying to make it better is seriously questionable. As to GoCubsGo's question - agreed, if the US military is not already the best and strongest, who is?

[Supsalemgr]

I am not qualified to answer your question. Based on what I have read, it may be China. Russia is a weakened paper tiger that only has power because it has nukes.

[Vrede too]

I am not qualified to answer your question. Based on what I have read, it may be China. Russia is a weakened paper tiger that only has power because it has nukes.

No way. Our MIC has always massively exaggerated "threats" in order to dupe (mostly) cons into throwing more money at it. China can exert coastal dominance, and even that is dubious thanks to Vietnam, the Philippines, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and of course the US and its global dominance.

Anyhow, the complexities that you admit automatically disqualifies sycophant neophyte and drunken misogynist Hegseth.

[O Really]

Supe may not be qualified to answer, but he's fershire as qualified as Hegseth. As are the rest of us.

[Vrede too]

Supe may not be qualified to answer, but he's fershire as qualified as Hegseth. As are the rest of us.

Also being a veteran, but an Intel veteran, may make you MORE qualified than Hegseth. Low bar, though.

Then, unlike Hegseth Soupy Sales has been a manager. It's in his handle. He's also a cultist, so he has the prime "qualification".

[Vrede too]

Biden, Trump send different Christmas messages

... Biden narrated a video tour of the White House Christmas decorations that was published on YouTube late on Christmas Eve, in which he urges Americans to set aside "all the noise and everything that divides us."

"We're here on this Earth to care for one another, to love one another," Biden says in a voiceover as a camera pans past adorned evergreen trees and bedecked fireplaces inside the White House. "Too often we see each other as enemies, not as neighbors, not as fellow Americans," he said.

Biden urged Americans to find a moment of "quiet reflection" to remind themselves to treat each other with dignity and respect, to "live in the light" and remember there was more to unite than divide Americans. "We're truly blessed to live in this nation," he said.

Nice

Trump published a mid-morning "Merry Christmas" message on Truth Social on Christmas Day with a photo of himself and his wife Melania, followed by over two dozen re-posts of articles or other social media posts that backed his political positions on topics including Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth and his pursuit of Greenland and the Panama Canal.

Even today is all about tragically insecure and self-absorbed Dolt .45.

Later, Trump published a more lengthy "Merry Christmas" message that claimed Chinese soldiers were operating the Panama Canal,

Lie, as usual.

and criticized Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, Biden and Democrats.

"Merry Christmas to the Radical Left Lunatics, who are constantly trying to obstruct our Court System and our Elections," Trump wrote.

Perpetual victim, as usual.

"They know that their only chance of survival is getting pardons from a man who has absolutely no idea what he is doing."

Ummm, few of Biden's pardons were political, compared to many for TRE45QN, they're a done deal, not something anyone will rely on in the future, duh, and "has absolutely no idea what he is doing" is a contradiction of his own whine. Idiot, as usual.

"Also, to Governor Justin Trudeau of Canada, whose Citizens’ Taxes are far too high, but if Canada was to become our 51st State, their Taxes would be cut by more than 60%," Trump wrote.

Delusional and dishonest, as usual.

Happy Birthday, Jesus.

SoupySales and the rest of the xtian Cult must be so very proud of their idol and inspired.

[O Really]

I read last week that Trump "takes his Christian faith very seriously." Sounds about right.